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Dumbest steal attempt ever. Are you shitting me? Three runs down? Take the fucking steal off, Rickey. With the RBI leader at home and the middle of the order up, you send the runner? What a piece of shit manager you are. Abreu has to be very pissed.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

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Dumbest steal attempt ever. Are you shitting me? Three runs down? Take the fucking steal off, Rickey. With the RBI leader at home and the middle of the order up, you send the runner? What a piece of shit manager you are. Abreu has to be very pissed.

Abreoo popped out, dumbass


Fuck you, jag-off. Do you think that a hitter wants to see a guy try and steal 3rd with no outs and him at bat? You do not know shit about baseball. Renteria is the dumbest fucking manager in baseball and this showed it well.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.


Bullshit. He is the best short-stop in the AL and is young. Five tool player with a horse shit manager.

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Hawk, if you're dumb enough to believe Ricky put that steal on, then you're dumb enough to vote for Trump.

Oh wait...

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Hawk, if you're dumb enough to believe Ricky put that steal on, then you're dumb enough to vote for Trump.

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Do you know anything at all about baseball? There is something called a NO STEAL sign, dumbshit. This is what the manager has in order to control what happens in the game. A good manager does this exactly in such a situation. You wouldn't know this because you never played the game of baseball, huh?

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.


Bullshit. He is the best short-stop in the AL and is young. Five tool player with a horse shit manager.

He is having a nice year and has improved a ton, but there is no way he is the best SS in the AL

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.


Bullshit. He is the best short-stop in the AL and is young. Five tool player with a horse shit manager.


He constantly makes stupid mistakes in the field or base running. He never walks, so he has to hit .330 for a decent OBP. He's best known for bat flips that lead to stupid fights.

He's a nice player to have at the bottom of your line-up, but if he's one of your best players then you are not going to win anything.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.

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I hate Yonder Alonso.

I said out loud I would never talk shit about him the rest of the year if he tied it up there. I’m glad I don’t have to hold myself to it. Fuck him

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Hawk, if you're dumb enough to believe Ricky put that steal on, then you're dumb enough to vote for Trump.

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Do you know anything at all about baseball? There is something called a NO STEAL sign, dumbshit. This is what the manager has in order to control what happens in the game. A good manager does this exactly in such a situation. You wouldn't know this because you never played the game of baseball, huh?

Hawk is correct. Once Ricky saw Tim's antics at 2nd, he should have put the brakes on him. But then again, maybe he took for granted that Tim had an idea what the score was and that he had some common sense.


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I hate Yonder Alonso.

I said out loud I would never talk shit about him the rest of the year if he tied it up there. I’m glad I don’t have to hold myself to it. Fuck him

What are the dues to join the Yonder Alonso Hate Club? Honest to god, I'll kick in a hundo if I get a weekly newsletter


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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.


I don't think it would matter much if you had say Yonder at short if the other pieces pan out. As I type this, Anderson just fucked up a double play.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.


Bullshit. He is the best short-stop in the AL and is young. Five tool player with a horse shit manager.


He constantly makes stupid mistakes in the field or base running. He never walks, so he has to hit .330 for a decent OBP. He's best known for bat flips that lead to stupid fights.

He's a nice player to have at the bottom of your line-up, but if he's one of your best players then you are not going to win anything.


That's why he is going to be an all-star this year, huh? For some reason you do not happen to like the kid. Does his race have anything to do with it?

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.


I don't think it would matter much if you had say Yonder at short if the other pieces pan out. As I type this, Anderson just fucked up a double play.

Anderson’s been excellent turning double plays this season and he’s clearly a lot better than Yolmer currently. He still fucks up too much and has a lot to work on and even with that he’s having an all star caliber year and he’s locked in at a team friendly deal anyway so any way you slice it he’s clearly a foundational piece of this core.

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this is the problem w/ you guys. you get distracted easily.

The fucking Timmy steal was like 4 hours ago. There's still a game going on. pay attention!


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The Hawk wrote:
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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.


Bullshit. He is the best short-stop in the AL and is young. Five tool player with a horse shit manager.


He constantly makes stupid mistakes in the field or base running. He never walks, so he has to hit .330 for a decent OBP. He's best known for bat flips that lead to stupid fights.

He's a nice player to have at the bottom of your line-up, but if he's one of your best players then you are not going to win anything.


That's why he is going to be an all-star this year, huh? For some reason you do not happen to like the kid. Does his race have anything to do with it?


He's no silverback gorilla for sure. I told you what I did not like about him as a player above. I'm not going to repeat it. Maybe he makes the all-star game, so did plenty of other guys who were mediocre or having a good first half.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.


I don't think it would matter much if you had say Yonder at short if the other pieces pan out. As I type this, Anderson just fucked up a double play.

Anderson’s been excellent turning double plays this season and he’s clearly a lot better than Yolmer currently. He still fucks up too much and has a lot to work on and even with that he’s having an all star caliber year and he’s locked in at a team friendly deal anyway so any way you slice it he’s clearly a foundational piece of this core.


This umpire's strike zone has been ridiculously inconsistent.

Tim Anderson will hit more home runs than Yolmer. He's a nice bat at the bottom of the line-up. I just don't think you win anything if you need him to be one of your best players. He fucks up too much to be a leader. Simply cannot make an out on that steal attempt.

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One hit is not a fucking rally.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.


I don't think it would matter much if you had say Yonder at short if the other pieces pan out. As I type this, Anderson just fucked up a double play.

Anderson’s been excellent turning double plays this season and he’s clearly a lot better than Yolmer currently. He still fucks up too much and has a lot to work on and even with that he’s having an all star caliber year and he’s locked in at a team friendly deal anyway so any way you slice it he’s clearly a foundational piece of this core.


This umpire's strike zone has been ridiculously inconsistent.

Tim Anderson will hit more home runs than Yolmer. He's a nice bat at the bottom of the line-up. I just don't think you win anything if you need him to be one of your best players. He fucks up too much to be a leader. Simply cannot make an out on that steal attempt.

He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.

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He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.


He can be a plus player, but it's not like this is his first season. He had a great first month. Then he had a sub-.700 OPS in May. This is in line with the .687 and .678 he put up the past two seasons.

Defensive metrics are iffy to me, but he has a negative defensive WAR this year. And he has 14 errors. When I say he isn't foundational, I mean we could find someone else to put up .700 or so OPS and play shortstop at a similar level.

BY not a leader I mean - making stupid mistakes in the field or starting fights over a stupid bat flip in the 3rd inning against the god awful Royals. Great way to get people injured/suspended.

I know he's "young", but this is already his 4th season. Is he really going to get much better?

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He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.


He can be a plus player, but it's not like this is his first season. He had a great first month. Then he had a sub-.700 OPS in May. This is in line with the .687 and .678 he put up the past two seasons.

Defensive metrics are iffy to me, but he has a negative defensive WAR this year. And he has 14 errors. When I say he isn't foundational, I mean we could find someone else to put up .700 or so OPS and play shortstop at a similar level.

BY not a leader I mean - making stupid mistakes in the field or starting fights over a stupid bat flip in the 3rd inning against the god awful Royals. Great way to get people injured/suspended.

I know he's "young", but this is already his 4th season. Is he really going to get much better?


Then there’s the whole comparing himself to Jackie Robinson because the dropped an n-bomb stupidly.

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He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.


He can be a plus player, but it's not like this is his first season. He had a great first month. Then he had a sub-.700 OPS in May. This is in line with the .687 and .678 he put up the past two seasons.

Defensive metrics are iffy to me, but he has a negative defensive WAR this year. And he has 14 errors. When I say he isn't foundational, I mean we could find someone else to put up .700 or so OPS and play shortstop at a similar level.

BY not a leader I mean - making stupid mistakes in the field or starting fights over a stupid bat flip in the 3rd inning against the god awful Royals. Great way to get people injured/suspended.

I know he's "young", but this is already his 4th season. Is he really going to get much better?

He seems to be getting better. 2.5 WAR last year and 1.5 already so far this year. I don't think he's as easily replaceable as you think, and again, he's signed to a team friendly extension so he's not going to get replaced any time soon.

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Tim Anderson is an idiot, not a leader, and he’s slipping offensively. Let’s lose the idea that he’s a star or a foundation piece.

That’s an insane overreaction. Absolutely a foundational piece. Jury is out on star.


I don't think it would matter much if you had say Yonder at short if the other pieces pan out. As I type this, Anderson just fucked up a double play.

Anderson’s been excellent turning double plays this season and he’s clearly a lot better than Yolmer currently. He still fucks up too much and has a lot to work on and even with that he’s having an all star caliber year and he’s locked in at a team friendly deal anyway so any way you slice it he’s clearly a foundational piece of this core.


This umpire's strike zone has been ridiculously inconsistent.

Tim Anderson will hit more home runs than Yolmer. He's a nice bat at the bottom of the line-up. I just don't think you win anything if you need him to be one of your best players. He fucks up too much to be a leader. Simply cannot make an out on that steal attempt.


You mention him not being a "leader". Is that somekind of requirement for a baseball player? I've heard a lot of criticisms for a player before, but I've never heard some guy get criticized for not being a "leader". Please define why you single out Anderson out for not being a leader and why some of the others on the team are not targeted as lacking whatever "leadership" is.

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He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.


He can be a plus player, but it's not like this is his first season. He had a great first month. Then he had a sub-.700 OPS in May. This is in line with the .687 and .678 he put up the past two seasons.

Defensive metrics are iffy to me, but he has a negative defensive WAR this year. And he has 14 errors. When I say he isn't foundational, I mean we could find someone else to put up .700 or so OPS and play shortstop at a similar level.

BY not a leader I mean - making stupid mistakes in the field or starting fights over a stupid bat flip in the 3rd inning against the god awful Royals. Great way to get people injured/suspended.

I know he's "young", but this is already his 4th season. Is he really going to get much better?

He seems to be getting better. 2.5 WAR last year and 1.5 already so far this year. I don't think he's as easily replaceable as you think, and again, he's signed to a team friendly extension so he's not going to get replaced any time soon.

He's fine. He gets a little better every year. I used to comp him to Lo Cain offensively because they both started baseball so late in life. It's hard to tell right now whether that chip on his shoulder is a blessing or a curse.


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He can’t but he did and a lot of great players do have rare fuck ups like that. Problem with Timmy is he fucks up too much still but that’s getting better as is every part of his game. I don’t know about the leader stuff but I think he’s a fine player and a nice part of the core going forward. If he plateaus you look to move on but he’s a plus player without a doubt right now on a good contract.


He can be a plus player, but it's not like this is his first season. He had a great first month. Then he had a sub-.700 OPS in May. This is in line with the .687 and .678 he put up the past two seasons.

Defensive metrics are iffy to me, but he has a negative defensive WAR this year. And he has 14 errors. When I say he isn't foundational, I mean we could find someone else to put up .700 or so OPS and play shortstop at a similar level.

BY not a leader I mean - making stupid mistakes in the field or starting fights over a stupid bat flip in the 3rd inning against the god awful Royals. Great way to get people injured/suspended.

I know he's "young", but this is already his 4th season. Is he really going to get much better?

He seems to be getting better. 2.5 WAR last year and 1.5 already so far this year. I don't think he's as easily replaceable as you think, and again, he's signed to a team friendly extension so he's not going to get replaced any time soon.


Sure he is getting better. Both he and Moncada basically came up very early for an infielder and had their baptism of fire in the major leagues. They both struggled like 95% of young players struggle when brought up this early. Now the White Sox successfully have a veteran YOUNG 3rd base and short-stop tandem for years to come.

As to the bat flip, I think that is a ridiculous criticism. If you saw the catcher of the Cubs flip his bat after his two home-runs, I guess that it merited a dusting also? The whole thing is ridiculous. Clearly the Cubs catcher is a show-boat(anyone notice his little Kodak moment mock job after throwing Anderson out at 3rd?). Should he have gotten thrown at? Maybe. Maybe not. But why no outcry about that guy's showboating?

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
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When he tried to match the Ranger
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