Shots fired at Favrefan!

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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

Luis Robert is going to be an all star. Reminds me of a young Andrew McCutchen.

They can afford to stay calm on the pitchers. Long term pitching contracts are inherently fraught with danger. Additionally, it is going to start to become very crowded in that starting pitching group by mid season with Rodon and Kopech returning and hopefully Dunning tailing them. If Giolito comes to them to sign a very affordable long term deal because of fears from his past injuries and production, ok. I would not sign him to any monster deal. It has to be one of those Sale/Quintana deals that you can peddle if the situation proves advantageous.

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Don't count on Rodon for anything.

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I see him being done in a Sox uniform. I don't think he has any desire to be a bullpen guy.

What would he have been projected to make if he has seasons like last year the next five years? 75,80,100?

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Yeah this makes sense on both sides. For Moncada it mitigates the risk associated with injury as well as the possibility that last year was an aberration. Further it takes the pressure of Moncada if he has a slow start. From the Sox standpoint it's low risk high reward. And as GD noted he can still hit the jackpot when the contract ends.

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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

This guy gets it

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Boot licking Mike at it again! Very SAD!

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Don't get me started on a Friday tough guy.

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To be a White Sock.

Why? IF he is healthy, I'd say he's got as good a chance as anyone not named Kuechel and Giolitto to be a solid starter. It is amazing you and Cashman are so easily ready to talk about injured prospects having no chance because of their surgery.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Rodon is a total crapshoot

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I'm firmly in the White Sock camp, and not in the White Sox camp on this one. Although I hear a lot of people in the media, chief among them Laurence Holmes, who will use "White Sox" when referring to one member of the team instead of "White Sock."

'Sock' is lame and wrong.

or...Los Blancos as they say in Habana.

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"Change has come to Amerika."- TFG

YOu can say that about any pitcher that had surgery on his pitching arm. Pitching as a whole really is a total crapshoot. You're on the top of the heap one minute and then POOF, you throw a pitch, you feel something pop and a week later you're having surgery.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Like white sox isn't lame. It's as lame as shirts and skins. Do you want to be a shirts or a skins?

Great minds think alike.

Look at how long it took(we think he is ready) Burdi to get it back. Rodon is not a long term solution for the Sox. So if it is Kopech getting experience or Rodon struggling through the 2nd half, I am taking Kopech 100% of the time. Rodon wants to get paid, and has no desire to go to the pen. He probably would do better as a closer, but whatever.

What does it matter how long it takes to recover? You make all of these pronouncements about players careers being OVER as if you somehow know something definitive. Rodon is still young and I really love his mechanics. You also mention Rodon "struggling" through the 2nd half and wanting Kopech to pitch instead of him. Why is that? Kopech blew out his arm also did he not? So what make Kopech a legit prospect and not Rodon?

YOu say Rodon wants to get paid. Guess what? He's not going to get paid unless he performs. Neither will Kopech. It is a fact that players do not get paid, especially pitchers unless they prove that they can pitch as well as stay healthy. As for Rodon having no desire for being a reliever, he doesn't get to make that choice. He'll got to the pen if the organization can find value in it and will pay him as a reliever. It is as simple as that.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

It usually takes Rodon a handful of start before he gets going, and usually can not complete an entire season. IF he is healthy be all star break, probably half of that before he gets going. If the Sox are in a playoff push, I dont think they need someone struggling for 5-6 starts. Also, he is only under Sox control for 1 more season. Kopech has more years of control.

Why Kopech and not Rodon? What they project out to be. We have seen 5yrs of Rodon, and I see nothing more than a #4 type of starter out of him. Also his agent. As for not producing to get paid, I am not buying that. I am not saying he is gonna get $30M a year, but what we have seen, I think he is like a $10-15M a year guy.

We will see. You go ahead and predict his career being over. Where you project his salary is also pretty funny. I think that if he is healthy, he can win 12-15 games depending when he is released to start. I care less about what what his Sox "control" is. That will take care of itself via performance. Rodon is 27 years old. Kopech is 24. Both are returning from significant injuries that hundreds of pitchers have had, many of whom who have recovered to become proven major league pitchers. Kopech is more of an unproven entity in my estimation than Rodon is. If I were to bet, I think that Kopech will start his career in the bull-pen where they will let him figure things out for himself and them, sort of the way they dealt with Sale.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I didn't say his career. I said he and the Sox are probably done. What happens in 21' we will see what happens.

that's fair enough. We'll see.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Carrie Woodswhenhealthy. Mark Priorwhenhealthy.

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground as he hopped.

Rodon has pitched in 39 games over 154 innings since your butt buddy Trump took the oath of office. Don't count on Rodon for anything.

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This was posted in December, before Keuchel, Encarnacion, Robert, and Moncada were signed.

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Your boldness is admirable.

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I was frustrated and still want to stab JERRRY????? in the eye with a pen, but I had faith Hahn would eventually cobble together a real solid ballclub.

It took longer than I would have liked, but he has done a great job in seemingly giving the Sox a good window to contend. The next 3-4 years at least, and there is still payroll flexibility to sign more guys and extend the window. Obviously the games have to be played and you win nothing on paper, but I like the Sox chances as good as any going forward into the 2020s.

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Jerry's never gonna change his ways. We're easy marks.

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All the more impressive job by Hahn. Maybe it foolishly took him longer to realize that he is going to have to operate within the confines of Jerry's Way, or find another organization to work for.

Regardless of your feelings on the owner or the organization as a whole FF, you can't deny that the Sox a core full of talent locked up for the next few seasons. We'll see if it pans out into a victory parade or not.


And the "he" in the statement you quoted above refers to Hahn, not Jerry.

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They do have a nice core. That doesn't negate 10+ years of being the laughingstock of the sport and this city.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul