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I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

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This thread started with idiocy.....there was some fun chirping to call out the idiocy....and now it's back to another form of idiocy.

Do I think the 2005 Sox were better than the 2016 Cubs? yeah...a little bit, but who gives a shit. A WS championship is a WS championship.

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Yeah I find it humorous as well when people people try to argue something that's factually incorrect. RFDC and conns are Trumpets in December here :lol:

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This thread started with idiocy.....there was some fun chirping to call out the idiocy....and now it's back to another form of idiocy.

Do I think the 2005 Sox were better than the 2016 Cubs? yeah...a little bit, but who gives a shit. A WS championship is a WS championship.

well said, thanks for being a Sox fan with some sense.

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It's odd, but every time I think an argument on this board can't be topped in stupidity, I find myself being mistaken.

I thought the science was settled on the ‘05 Sox, yet here we are.

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Do I think the 2005 Sox were better than the 2016 Cubs? yeah...

well said, thanks for being a Sox fan with some sense.
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I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

There no such thing as the greatest one season champion. If there is, it's in the context of other championships in that relative time period. For instance, the '27 Yankees or the '86 Celtics. No one has ever put forth the 2005 White Sox to be "in the team picture".


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Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

There no such thing as the greatest one season champion. If there is, it's in the context of other championships in that relative time period. For instance, the '27 Yankees or the '86 Celtics. No one has ever put forth the 2005 White Sox to be "in the team picture".

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Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

There no such thing as the greatest one season champion. If there is, it's in the context of other championships in that relative time period. For instance, the '27 Yankees or the '86 Celtics. No one has ever put forth the 2005 White Sox to be "in the team picture".

So now we can trust the media?

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Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

There no such thing as the greatest one season champion. If there is, it's in the context of other championships in that relative time period. For instance, the '27 Yankees or the '86 Celtics. No one has ever put forth the 2005 White Sox to be "in the team picture".

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Now the Beloved of Beloveds has been caught up in the effort to diminish the ‘05 Sox.

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Nardi wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wont say THE greatest, but they are in the team photo. Only Chicago WS winner there as a matter of fact.

There no such thing as the greatest one season champion. If there is, it's in the context of other championships in that relative time period. For instance, the '27 Yankees or the '86 Celtics. No one has ever put forth the 2005 White Sox to be "in the team picture".


They are certainly had a historic run in the playoffs and were a wire to wire first place team

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The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559

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 Post subject: Re: Cursed
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559


2005 White Sox Divisional opponents win %: .467
2016 Cubs Divisional opponents win %: .471

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conns7901 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559


2005 White Sox Divisional opponents win %: .467
2016 Cubs Divisional opponents win %: .471

2005 White Sox win% vs division opponents; .701
2016 Cubs win% vs division opponents; .668

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 Post subject: Re: Cursed
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conns7901 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559


2005 White Sox Divisional opponents win %: .467
2016 Cubs Divisional opponents win %: .471

Is that meant to say the 2016 Cubs played high quality opponents in the regular season?

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 Post subject: Re: Cursed
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559


2005 White Sox Divisional opponents win %: .467
2016 Cubs Divisional opponents win %: .471

2005 White Sox win% vs division opponents; .701
2016 Cubs win% vs division opponents; .668



:lol: Just shows the Sox were bigger bum slayers.

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Brick wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

2005 AL; 8 of 14 teams with a record of >.500. That's 57% of the AL.
2016 NL; 6 of 15 teams with a record of >.500. That's 40% of the NL.

2005 White Sox playoff opponent win%; .573
2016 Cubs playoff opponent win%; .559


2005 White Sox Divisional opponents win %: .467
2016 Cubs Divisional opponents win %: .471

Is that meant to say the 2016 Cubs played high quality opponents in the regular season?


Either they are both bum slaying champions or they are not.

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Either they are both bum slaying champions or they are not.
In the regular season maybe but 11-1 doesn't lie.

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Either they are both bum slaying champions or they are not.
Incorrect.

The Sox won a league where 57% of the teams were above .500
The Cubs won a league where 60% of the teams were below .500

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Either they are both bum slaying champions or they are not.
Incorrect.

The Sox won a league where 57% of the teams were above .500
The Cubs won a league where 60% of the teams were below .500

Frank, there is no call to make me do math.


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conns7901 wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

I'm guessing that doesn't include the playoffs

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FavreFan wrote:
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Darkside wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Sox can bum slay their way to the AL Central title, and that gets them a ticket to the dance. Then anything can happen.

If anybody would know about bum slaying, its somebody that's a fan of what happened in 2016.

This is dumb.


2005 White Sox. 6 games over .500 vs wining teams
2016 Cubs. 6 games over .500 vs winning teams.

I'm guessing that doesn't include the playoffs


Frank brought up bum slaying there way to a division title like the 16 Cubs. Could just as easily brought up the 05 White Sox.

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You could have, and you would be wrong just like you are now.

I noticed you stop posting stats as they no longer support your argument which was beyond feeble to begin with.

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Frank, there is no call to make me do math.
I'll do some more.

Other than the Cubs, the 2016 NL Central teams played 648 games.
Other than the White Sox, the 2005 AL central played 647 games. Obviously somewhere along the line there was a rainout or something that didn't get made up. Had that game been played, and had the AL Central team won, the 2005 White Sox Divisional opponent win% would have been .471.

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The last couple pages of this thread are pretty funny.

I don't really agree with the idea that all champions are equal. Either the Bucks or Suns are going to win the Finals this year, and both teams would get murdered by the majority of champions over the last 30 years.

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Hopefully Rose and Flete are ready by the playoffs.

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