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You did mean you were waiting for the Twins to break this open right Francis? :lol: :D

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Do you have any hot stock tips for us, Frankie C, since you are on this tear of prognosticatory brilliance?

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Do you have any hot stock tips for us, Frankie C, since you are on this tear of prognosticatory brilliance?

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Sox just cannot hang with the Twins. Five games out after tonight is going to be insurmountable. Sox are running on fumes in the pitching department. God this stinks.

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So it wasnt the metrodome then, Hawk?


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Is AJ the worst everyday starter in MLB?

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Is AJ the worst everyday starter in MLB?


It's either him or Darwin Barney.

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Not an everyday starter. Thanks for playing though.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:09 pm 
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Irish Boy wrote:
Not an everyday starter. Thanks for playing though.


Then maybe it's whoever is the everyday second baseman over there. Or possibly Xavier Nady.

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Not an everyday starter. Thanks for playing though.


Then maybe it's whoever is the everyday second baseman over there. Or possibly Xavier Nady.

Whomever they play =/= everyday starter, now does it?

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Irish Boy wrote:
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Not an everyday starter. Thanks for playing though.


Then maybe it's whoever is the everyday second baseman over there. Or possibly Xavier Nady.

Whomever they play =/= everyday starter, now does it?


Are you suggesting the Cubs don't have any everyday players? :lol:

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No, I'm saying that a platoon/split system automatically excludes someone from being the everyday player.

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I never realized the importance of EVERY FUCKING 1-1 COUNT until tonight. Thanks, Hawkaroo!

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No, I'm saying that a platoon/split system automatically excludes someone from being the everyday player.


Okay, in that case A.J. splits time with Castro so he isn't an everyday player. But that isn't really your point. You just wanted to take a crack at the White Sox. And it's really not necessary. Their play vs. Minnesota is speaking for itself.

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Well, I was one of the ones saying the Sox needed a lefty bat, but it sure looks like their pitching is what's let them down recently. If your starters give up 5 runs a game, not much you can do.

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No, I'm saying that a platoon/split system automatically excludes someone from being the everyday player.


Okay, in that case A.J. splits time with Castro so he isn't an everyday player. But that isn't really your point. You just wanted to take a crack at the White Sox. And it's really not necessary. Their play vs. Minnesota is speaking for itself.

No, literally, AJ might be the worst everyday player in MLB. Starer with a .270 OBP and shitty defensively. That might be worst in MLB for someone who plays everyday.

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I never realized the importance of EVERY FUCKING 1-1 COUNT until tonight. Thanks, Hawkaroo!

Or that every 2-1 count puts you in the catbird's seat.

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With tonights result the Twins are now 20 games over .500 at 70-50. The Sux are now 65-55...just 10 games over .500. The Twins are on pace to win 94 games. The Sox are on pace to win 88 games. If the Twins do win 94 games, the Sux need to go 29-13 in their remaining games, just to TIE the Twins. They still have 4 games remaining with the Twins, 4 against the Red Sox and 3 against the Yankees in their remaining 42. To win 29 of 42, the Sux would have to win 69% of their remaining games (.690). They have played at a .546 clip so far this season. Having lost the last 2 games, when their 2 best starters pitched (Danks & Floyd)there is just one reasonable conclusion to come to.... its over.

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With tonights result the Twins are now 20 games over .500 at 70-50. The Sux are now 65-55...just 10 games over .500. The Twins are on pace to win 94 games. The Sox are on pace to win 88 games. If the Twins do win 94 games, the Sux need to go 29-13 in their remaining games, just to TIE the Twins. They still have 4 games remaining with the Twins, 4 against the Red Sox and 3 against the Yankees in their remaining 42. To win 29 of 42, the Sux would have to win 69% of their remaining games (.690). They have played at a .546 clip so far this season. Having lost the last 2 games, when their 2 best starters pitched (Danks & Floyd)there is just one reasonable conclusion to come to.... its over.

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Well if you had Minnesota -1.5 tonight, you got backdoored there.

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Well, the 1-1 pitch is generally the key pitch in an at-bat. There's a world of difference between 1-2 and 2-1. Also, I'm pretty sure Hawk uses "catbird seat" with regard to a 2-0 count, usually with men on.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
With tonights result the Twins are now 20 games over .500 at 70-50. The Sux are now 65-55...just 10 games over .500. The Twins are on pace to win 94 games. The Sox are on pace to win 88 games. If the Twins do win 94 games, the Sux need to go 29-13 in their remaining games, just to TIE the Twins. They still have 4 games remaining with the Twins, 4 against the Red Sox and 3 against the Yankees in their remaining 42. To win 29 of 42, the Sux would have to win 69% of their remaining games (.690). They have played at a .546 clip so far this season. Having lost the last 2 games, when their 2 best starters pitched (Danks & Floyd)there is just one reasonable conclusion to come to.... its over.


I don't think the Sox are catching the Twins, but Minnesota isn't going to win 94 games either.

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Well, the 1-1 pitch is generally the key pitch in an at-bat. There's a world of difference between 1-2 and 2-1. Also, I'm pretty sure Hawk uses "catbird seat" with regard to a 2-0 count, usually with men on.

He'll say that at 2-1 or 3-1 also.

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Stupid cheap-ass Twins can't afford Mark Prior. :lol: :lol:

What a bunch of small-town chumps taking that Mauer guy. :lol: :lol: Losers. :lol: :lol:

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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With tonights result the Twins are now 20 games over .500 at 70-50. The Sux are now 65-55...just 10 games over .500. The Twins are on pace to win 94 games. The Sox are on pace to win 88 games. If the Twins do win 94 games, the Sux need to go 29-13 in their remaining games, just to TIE the Twins. They still have 4 games remaining with the Twins, 4 against the Red Sox and 3 against the Yankees in their remaining 42. To win 29 of 42, the Sux would have to win 69% of their remaining games (.690). They have played at a .546 clip so far this season. Having lost the last 2 games, when their 2 best starters pitched (Danks & Floyd)there is just one reasonable conclusion to come to.... its over.


I don't think the Sox are catching the Twins, but Minnesota isn't going to win 94 games either.



If you extrapolate their winning percentage (.583) over 162 games it comes out to 94.4 . That said, I think it's reasonable to believe they may fall a game or two below that total. So lets say they win just 92...the Sox would have to go 27-15 the rest of the way, to get to that total. With the remaining games VS the Twins (4) Red Sox (4) and Yankees (3) mixed in, that is one hell of a task. For the Sox to win just 27 of the 42 remaining games, they need to win at a .642 clip. Thats WAY over their season win %. Once the division has been clinched, the Twins will likely use bench players and starters from their September call-ups in a few games, so yeah...I wouldn't bet the over on the 94 win total myself. But I would bet the under on the Sox winning even 90.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
If you extrapolate their winning percentage (.583) over 162 games it comes out to 94.4 . That said, I think it's reasonable to believe they may fall a game or two below that total. So lets say they win just 92...the Sox would have to go 27-15 the rest of the way, to get to that total. With the remaining games VS the Twins (4) Red Sox (4) and Yankees (3) mixed in, that is one hell of a task. For the Sox to win just 27 of the 42 remaining games, they need to win at a .642 clip. Thats WAY over their season win %. Once the division has been clinched, the Twins will likely use bench players and starters from their September call-ups in a few games, so yeah...I wouldn't bet the over on the 94 win total myself. But I would bet the under on the Sox winning even 90.


I'm not living in fantasyland believing the Sox can actually win this thing, Steve. But even though the Sox appear to have the tougher schedule, a whole lot of it is at home. And the Twins play most of their remaining games away where they're just two games over.

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