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Ishiba's business is based in chicago and he is building a mansion on the north shore.


I haven't been by there in awhile, but I'm guessing it may be almost completed now.

I took this photo of the early construction while standing in the park that he almost glommed from Winnetka:


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Love living an "authentic suburban life" in a giant mansion in Winnetka.

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Love living an "authentic suburban life" in a giant mansion in Winnetka.

When it's all said and done, they'll have that whole block of the beach private and fenced off. It's really quite disgusting, but then again....most residents of Winnetka would do the same if they had the means. Winnetka deserves the Ishbias. :lol:

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Love living an "authentic suburban life" in a giant mansion in Winnetka.

When it's all said and done, they'll have that whole block of the beach private and fenced off. It's really quite disgusting, but then again....most residents of Winnetka would do the same if they had the means. Winnetka deserves the Ishbias. :lol:

It appears that they can't fence off the beach after construction is done.


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I actually appreciate the sentiment and yeah, look sometimes you just have to sort of deal with a temporary fence for a few months while construction occurs. I’d be outraged if it was permanent, but it’s clearly not permanent.

But man at the end of the day if you’re worth a few billion dollars your kids are gonna turn out like Kendall, Roman and/or Shiv Roy. And that’s if you’re lucky. Sending them to New Trier isn’t going to moderate them or ground them, and they’ll never really be able to make friends because its impossible to decipher who actually appreciates you on a personal level and who isn’t just using you for money & access to an opulent lifestyle.

People always want what they cannot have. In this case a billionaire soon-to-be owner of a sports franchise that will cost him at least two billy cannot have a normal, authentic suburban experience the way, say, a dermatologists kids can. You think not raising them in California, New York or DC won’t make them shitheels…but come on New Trier has its reputation nationwide for a reason.

Like I said though, its a nice thought.


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Crying in front of the village board takes this into delusional territory.

I don’t think kids of that wealth would’ve ended up at new trier. Those are lake forest academy or some east coast boarding school kids. Having parents that’ll cry in public when they don’t get their way probably means they were fucked anyway.

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Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

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Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?

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Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

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Crying in front of the village board takes this into delusional territory.

I don’t think kids of that wealth would’ve ended up at new trier. Those are lake forest academy or some east coast boarding school kids. Having parents that’ll cry in public when they don’t get their way probably means they were fucked anyway.


North Shore Country Day is close.

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JORR wrote:
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Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

https://patch.com/illinois/winnetka/win ... nlit-judge


That sounds like a great opportunity lost by the city because residents. You'd take that deal every time to create one, big consolidated beach. A bunch of pocket beaches do nothing for anyone. Of course, a 1,000 foot wide beach might attract all the terrible people they moved to winnetka to avoid.

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good dolphin wrote:
JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

https://patch.com/illinois/winnetka/win ... nlit-judge


That sounds like a great opportunity lost by the city because residents. You'd take that deal every time to create one, big consolidated beach. A bunch of pocket beaches do nothing for anyone. Of course, a 1,000 foot wide beach might attract all the terrible people they moved to winnetka to avoid.



People like Centennial Park and Elder Lane. They've been there a long time. I don't think residents have to bow because some rich guy wants four contiguous lots instead of "just" three. Hell, if I were king of zoning up there I wouldn't have allowed the monstrosity this goof is creating. It's gonna end up a white elephant just like the crass and artless Jordan Mansion in Highland Park.

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Crying in front of the village board takes this into delusional territory.

I don’t think kids of that wealth would’ve ended up at new trier. Those are lake forest academy or some east coast boarding school kids. Having parents that’ll cry in public when they don’t get their way probably means they were fucked anyway.


North Shore Country Day is close.

North Shore Country Day? Perfect name if you want to intentionally throw wealth in peoples' faces. Does it have gates and a helipad? Full of dooshbags?


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Crying in front of the village board takes this into delusional territory.

I don’t think kids of that wealth would’ve ended up at new trier. Those are lake forest academy or some east coast boarding school kids. Having parents that’ll cry in public when they don’t get their way probably means they were fucked anyway.


North Shore Country Day is close.

North Shore Country Day? Perfect name if you want to intentionally throw wealth in peoples' faces. Does it have gates and a helipad? Full of dooshbags?

I believe that’s where the reinsdorfs sent their asshole kid to learn how to ruin the Bulls.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Crying in front of the village board takes this into delusional territory.

I don’t think kids of that wealth would’ve ended up at new trier. Those are lake forest academy or some east coast boarding school kids. Having parents that’ll cry in public when they don’t get their way probably means they were fucked anyway.


North Shore Country Day is close.

North Shore Country Day? Perfect name if you want to intentionally throw wealth in peoples' faces. Does it have gates and a helipad? Full of dooshbags?

I believe that’s where the reinsdorfs sent their asshole kid to learn how to ruin the Bulls.


"Country Day" is some network of schools across the country. I think Chris Webber went to the one near Detroit.

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JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

https://patch.com/illinois/winnetka/win ... nlit-judge


That sounds like a great opportunity lost by the city because residents. You'd take that deal every time to create one, big consolidated beach. A bunch of pocket beaches do nothing for anyone. Of course, a 1,000 foot wide beach might attract all the terrible people they moved to winnetka to avoid.



People like Centennial Park and Elder Lane. They've been there a long time. I don't think residents have to bow because some rich guy wants four contiguous lots instead of "just" three. Hell, if I were king of zoning up there I wouldn't have allowed the monstrosity this goof is creating. It's gonna end up a white elephant just like the crass and artless Jordan Mansion in Highland Park.


They don't have to bow. They have wanted the property he was offering in their master plan and the exchange rate was favorable. The aggregation of land like that for public use is worth far more than the price. Everyone can use 1K feet of beach. A 100 foot beach is, essentially, exclusive.

You are the guy who rails about forced vaccinations and then want to be the person who dictates aesthetics of another man's house.

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JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

https://patch.com/illinois/winnetka/win ... nlit-judge


That sounds like a great opportunity lost by the city because residents. You'd take that deal every time to create one, big consolidated beach. A bunch of pocket beaches do nothing for anyone. Of course, a 1,000 foot wide beach might attract all the terrible people they moved to winnetka to avoid.



People like Centennial Park and Elder Lane. They've been there a long time. I don't think residents have to bow because some rich guy wants four contiguous lots instead of "just" three. Hell, if I were king of zoning up there I wouldn't have allowed the monstrosity this goof is creating. It's gonna end up a white elephant just like the crass and artless Jordan Mansion in Highland Park.

I don't think the Jordan house is a valid comparison, as it doesn't border a public beach. I do agree, though, that Winnetka should have the long-term vision to see that this will some day be an un-sellable monstrosity of real estate. Winnetka deserves these assholes.

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"Country Day" is some network of schools across the country. I think Chris Webber went to the one near Detroit.

I don't think they're an official system. It's just the name for a private school "in the country" that isn't a boarding school.

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good dolphin wrote:
JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
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JORR wrote:
Ishbia had a deal in place to take over the park to the north and swap it for other land that he owned. The deal nearly went through until residents started screaming bloody murder and the village board backed off.

Was the other land also on the lakefront?



Yeah. The swap would have created a larger public beach. I'm not even saying it was a bad deal for Winnetka, but there's something distasteful about a billionaire swinging his dick around to glom public land.

https://patch.com/illinois/winnetka/win ... nlit-judge


That sounds like a great opportunity lost by the city because residents. You'd take that deal every time to create one, big consolidated beach. A bunch of pocket beaches do nothing for anyone. Of course, a 1,000 foot wide beach might attract all the terrible people they moved to winnetka to avoid.



People like Centennial Park and Elder Lane. They've been there a long time. I don't think residents have to bow because some rich guy wants four contiguous lots instead of "just" three. Hell, if I were king of zoning up there I wouldn't have allowed the monstrosity this goof is creating. It's gonna end up a white elephant just like the crass and artless Jordan Mansion in Highland Park.


They don't have to bow. They have wanted the property he was offering in their master plan and the exchange rate was favorable. The aggregation of land like that for public use is worth far more than the price. Everyone can use 1K feet of beach. A 100 foot beach is, essentially, exclusive.

You are the guy who rails about forced vaccinations and then want to be the person who dictates aesthetics of another man's house.



You'd go apeshit if your next door neighbor failed to mow his lawn for a month.

There have to be some limitations on residential construction. WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!

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You are the guy who rails about forced vaccinations and then want to be the person who dictates aesthetics of another man's house.



Here are a couple funny zoning stories for you. When I was a partner in a construction company one of my duties was permitting. I dealt with a lot of municipalities and they were all different. Some were impossible (Elmhurst, Northbrook) and some were simple (Algonquin, Schaumburg).

We were building a room addition in Cary and the design took the room a couple feet into the setback. We went through the process, noticed the neighbors, no one objected. But it had to be approved at the village meeting. The guy from the village said, "The meeting was just two days ago, so you'll have to wait until next month." I was like, "Really? You're gonna kill the entire month of June on me? We could have this thing built by then." He was nice, but he said, "I'm sorry that's just the way it has to be done." Okay, I have to give the client the bad news. When I got back to the office I had a message from the village guy on my voicemail. He said, "If you can bring a $700 check for the zoning variance in this afternoon, I can waive the meeting requirement." I had to laugh. Also, I'm pretty sure Cary is the place where the village hall is in a barn.

This one is even better. One of my partners wanted to build a sunroom on his house in Arlington Heights. He designed the room himself and it was not crass or artless. But to pull it off he had to go about ten inches into the setback. Unfortunately, his next door neighbor hated his guts. If you knew this partner of mine that would not surprise you. He could be easy to hate. The neighbor went to the meeting and objected. The board still could have approved it though. We had to go to about three meetings until the board decided. They said they would not approve the project because of the neighbor's objection. But one of the board members asked my partner what he was going to do if they failed to allow him to build ten inches into the setback. He said, "I will still build a sunroom but it will be the biggest and most obnoxious room I can build within the existing code. Well, we built the room. I permitted it and the inspector signed off at every stage. Talk about crass and artless. This hideous thing was almost as big as the existing house. It blocked the neighbor's bedroom window. This guy went to the next town meeting crying about his view. They told him, "We're sorry sir. The project was built to code."

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One of my partners wanted to build a sunroom on his house in Arlington Heights. He designed the room himself and it was not crass or artless.

I'm gonna have to wear this one like IMU and "Cultural Mecca," aren't I.

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One of my partners wanted to build a sunroom on his house in Arlington Heights. He designed the room himself and it was not crass or artless.

I'm gonna have to wear this one like IMU and "Cultural Mecca," aren't I.


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I'm going to take a guess that Justin Ishbia isn't Christian (do first names mean anything any more?), but I'd convert if it meant a competitive team. Just in time for the Jewish version of Lent, too.

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I'm guessing he's Mizrahi because he is Jewish but that's a very exotic-sounding name, like Sassoon or Saatchi.

no further race science please

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It’s tough to say without seeing him in person, but I think you can get a decent feel for his cranial measurements in that picture and…
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…sorry, my bad.

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I just didn't want the thread to get hijacked by someone. You can have a little race science as a treat.

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Here's one of those people for you:

S. Haddad was my TA for religious studies. I just assumed she was Muslim until she said, "As a Jewish scholar studying Jainism....."

10/10, easily.

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Me and the other 108 boys interviewed Jon Greenberg about the Ishbia situation last Thursday, if that interests you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0Cb07QpNs&t=423s


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Me and the other 108 boys interviewed Jon Greenberg about the Ishbia situation last Thursday, if that interests you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0Cb07QpNs&t=423s


Why would Ishbia buy more interest in the team and let JR run it for any long term amount of time. JR has clearly lost his grasp of ownership in baseball as currently constructed. Ishbia would be letting JR devalue the product. I don't believe he has the "six year runway " greenberg described in cleveland. It has to be a short term sale.

The only way I see them remaining partners is that Ishbia is committing the cash for a new stadium and relying on JRs knowledge of real estate development to help him. Even then, JR had some major missteps in overseeing development of Comiskey II. His was the last of the 60s-70s style cookie cutter stadiums. The next stadium built after JR was Camden which became the blueprint for a new era of stadiums. Comiskey II was almost immediately obsolete in terms of design AND the architectural firm gave him a retro Camden-like design for Comiskey II that JR rejected.

JRs entire design philosophy was to maximize the number of luxury suites. EVERYTHING else was subservient to the luxury suites. Decades later, several suites were not even built out for lack of interest. Meanwhile, the feature raised the height and slope of the upper deck, which has made them undesirable in good times and unsellable in the (many) bad times.

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I'm told Ishbia has offices in Nashville and graduated from Vandy.

I'm also told the White Sox draw when they are good. That's wrong. They were good in 2021. You have to go back to 2012 where they drew 2 million. Which isn't hard for upwards of 18 teams. Cincinnati drew 2 million last year. 2006 is like Colorado's normal attendance every year. Radio and TV which was thriving? yikes. 5 people listen in cars and 26 watch on TV.

They are dead. The fandom is dead. JR murdered them over the period of 45 years.
A new stadium? That will work for about 3 or 4 years. Tourists will come but after a while, right back to Wrigleyville.

Leave. Go away. Don't waste money here.


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