The young talent is impressive. Cough up some cash for pitching and they are right there.

The young talent is impressive. Cough up some cash for pitching and they are right there. Pederson would be a good pickup if cheap enough in terms of prospect currency, but will they get it done??

They have no excuses if they can't put together a solid roster this offseason. Grandal was an excellent signing but have to supplement that move or it's an overpay.

WHEELER IS RIGHT HANDED!!
I'm the first person to call out the righty / lefty matchup overrated and overused...but that's in the bullpen. There has to be ONE LEGITIMATE left handed started in the rotation. They have NONE right now.

Bumgarner is the only legitimate answer on the FA market but this would be a White Sox First. Historically, they've always tried to find cast-offs or guys coming off of injury / surgery that catch lightning in a bottle. I'm not familiar with anyone available in this category.

Bumgarner
Giolito
Kopech
Cease
Winner of Covey / Lopez or any other scrap heap pitcher they find.

I can get a little excited with a rotation like this.

You can make an argument that Ryu is better than Wheeler, is left handed and will be cheaper. I don't think you can ever feel confident relying on him because of durability issues but he did throw 180 innings last year.

I am ok with Ryu, I would just need another SP above a Nova skill level.

It will be ridiculous to miss on second tier guys after last year's free agency debacle but nothing surprises me with the Sox front office.

The money will be spent...poorly.

Give me Ryu and Hamels as an interesting pairing of lefties for the rotation. Then they can spend more on the bullpen.

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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Nova, to me, is the kind of guy you sign to a minor league deal and have ready just in case.

Give me Ryu and Hamels as an interesting pairing of lefties for the rotation. Then they can spend more on the bullpen.

So which is it? You say the money will be spent poorly, then say you are fine with Ryu, who threw a grand total of 220 innings from 2016 thru 2018, and an oft injured and older Hamels.

Ryu is the same tier as Wheeler. He was second in Cy Young voting last year. Wheeler threw a grand total of 268 innings in that time span. They both have serious durability questions. Wheeler gets the greater number of money and years because he will be 29 on opening day while Ryu will be 33.

I have wanted Hamels as the second fa starter signed for quite a while. He is independent of the top end fa pitcher signing.

I couldn't disagree more with your ideas to get to the World Series.

Neither is going to be intimidating pitching in Game 1 of a playoff series

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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I don't think either Wheeler or Ryu=World Series. Both of them raise the overall quality level of the pitching staff. Neither is going to be intimidating pitching in Game 1 of a playoff series against a true ace.

If you sign either of them, the ace is going to have to be developed within.

My plan would have been all the chips in on Cole. Forget C, RF, DH. If Cole is the best pitcher in baseball again, you're automatically a contender. If not, oh well you gave it a shot.

My plan would have been all the chips in on Cole. Forget C, RF, DH. If Cole is the best pitcher in baseball again, you're automatically a contender. If not, oh well you gave it a shot.

I HEAR you. Some here think he's a broken down old man. No siree, he is not.

I HEAR you. Some here think he's a broken down old man. No siree, he is not.

18 million for Hamels? Guarantee Madbum will get 4 or 5 years 80 to 100 million.

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Crazy money.

I wonder if JR decides its too expensive to be a real MLB owner for another season.

Crazy money?

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It kind of is for a guy who spent a good chunk of 2019 hurt.

If the Sox are going to spend that sort of crazy money, I'd prefer it to be on MadBum.

He was also reasonable effective despite just 140 innings. If you go light on the years, there is usually a premium in the base salary for the player.

36 years old guys coming off injuries usually don't get multiple years