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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:31 pm 
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Remember what Frank told us that Rick Hann said:

“It’s not about winning headlines in November or December. They don’t give out any trophies until October."

How is that applicable right now? You think Hahn only did this to win headlines?

It might not be relevant but Frank would be screaming about how off season titles dont matter if The Cubs made significant moves (im sure he has on this board actually)

Maybe. The Shark trade is a way bigger deal than Maddon though, which I believe is when Hahn said that quote. I believe even you stated the reaction to Maddon was ridiculous and over the top.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:32 pm 
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Well that's just fuckin beautiful.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:34 pm 
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FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Remember what Frank told us that Rick Hann said:

“It’s not about winning headlines in November or December. They don’t give out any trophies until October."

How is that applicable right now? You think Hahn only did this to win headlines?

It might not be relevant but Frank would be screaming about how off season titles dont matter if The Cubs made significant moves (im sure he has on this board actually)

Maybe. The Shark trade is a way bigger deal than Maddon though, which I believe is when Hahn said that quote. I believe even you stated the reaction to Maddon was ridiculous and over the top.

Yes it was, but we both know Frank would be doing it anyway


In fact, I could jsut post Frank's reactions to everything if you guys miss him so much




I love Frank and think no one should be banned


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Remember what Frank told us that Rick Hann said:

“It’s not about winning headlines in November or December. They don’t give out any trophies until October."

How is that applicable right now? You think Hahn only did this to win headlines?

It might not be relevant but Frank would be screaming about how off season titles dont matter if The Cubs made significant moves (im sure he has on this board actually)


Who?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Michael Ynoa headed to the Sox with Shark. Nice trade.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Bucky Chris wrote:
Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.


That is a little bit more than was earlier reported. It's not a popular one but I believe Phegley can play in MLB

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
[Yes it was, but we both know Frank would be doing it anyway


In fact, I could jsut post Frank's reactions to everything if you guys miss him so much




I love Frank and think no one should be banned


Is he doing it on Facebook or did he go back to MSFMB?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:39 pm 
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Oh come on. Beane finally gave up on the Crown Jewel?? This just gets better and better. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Hahn has won two off seasons. I defended him extensively with what he did last year when the most people could counter with is that Davidson has been a disappointment. Now he wins another one. There is a lot of solid talent on the Sox.

It will be fun to watch both the Cubs and the Sox progress. The Sox seem at least a year ahead because they are adding high quality veterans.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Maybe. The Shark trade is a way bigger deal than Maddon though, which I believe is when Hahn said that quote. I believe even you stated the reaction to Maddon was ridiculous and over the top.

Yes it was, but we both know Frank would be doing it anyway


In fact, I could jsut post Frank's reactions to everything if you guys miss him so much




I love Frank and think no one should be banned

You could do that. Cubbie Nation is already taking a solid beating at the hands of Sox Subdivision this morning though, adding Frank's comments here would just be overkill.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.

That's a lot to give up for one year of Samardzija.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Avi Garcia missed most of last year. His presence can be viewed as an addition.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.

That's a lot to give up for one year of Samardzija.


But, the Sox could sign him or trade him at the deadline. If they give him a qualifying offer, then they get draft pick compensation. I don't think the Sox will be upset at losing those four marginal players.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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My unreasonable wish list for the rest of the off season is move Danks and give his money to Melky Cabreara.

Trade Montas to Houston for Jason Castro.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.

That's a lot to give up for one year of Samardzija.


But, the Sox could sign him or trade him at the deadline. If they give him a qualifying offer, then they get draft pick compensation. I don't think the Sox will be upset at losing those four marginal players.

That's a lot of contingencies.


Im not sure those players are marginal. You should probably look into that.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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My unreasonable wish list for the rest of the off season is move Danks and give his money to Melky Cabreara.

Trade Montas to Houston for Jason Castro.


I asked about Montas earlier but it may have gotten lost. Does signing Robertson signal the Sox continuing to project him as a starter?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.

That's a lot to give up for one year of Samardzija.


But, the Sox could sign him or trade him at the deadline. If they give him a qualifying offer, then they get draft pick compensation. I don't think the Sox will be upset at losing those four marginal players.

That's a lot of contingencies.


Im not sure those players are marginal. You should probably look into that.


I would venture a guess that Semien is the only player in that group who gets 600 MLB career AB and Bassitt has a short career in middle relief

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Jesse Spector ‏@jessespector 1m1 minute ago
Trade is official. White Sox get Samardzija and Michael Ynoa for Marcus Semien, Chris Bassitt, Josh Phegley, and Rangel Ravelo.

That's a lot to give up for one year of Samardzija.


But, the Sox could sign him or trade him at the deadline. If they give him a qualifying offer, then they get draft pick compensation. I don't think the Sox will be upset at losing those four marginal players.

That's a lot of contingencies.


Im not sure those players are marginal. You should probably look into that.

Oh.... so now Semien doesn't suck anymore? Make up yo mind, man!

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Oh.... so now Semien doesn't suck anymore? Make up yo mind, man!


No kidding. If I told Cub fans about our top prospects Rangel Ravello and Chris Bassit, they would've died laughing (rightly so).

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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I would venture a guess that Semien is the only player in that group who gets 600 MLB career AB and Bassitt has a short career in middle relief



Bassitt will be okay if he can cut down the walks. Big dude with a big arm.

Phegley is horseshit.

I don't know whay anyone thinks Semien will ever hit.

Ravelo might be the best guy in the deal.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Holy crap! My joy over getting Samardzija will out weigh the horror of this Robertson deal. Hopefully that deal won't prevent them from getting him signed to an extension.


does Robertson signal how they want to handle Montas

I don't think so. He's a bullpen arm and signing Robertson doesn't change that. This just gives him more time to develop.

Asked and answered.

I would like to add this also makes him a nice trade piece. Especially to a team that lost out on Robertson and Andrew Miller.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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The best part of this trade is we no longer have to listen to America ramble on and on about how good Semien is and will be.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Oh.... so now Semien doesn't suck anymore? Make up yo mind, man!

Ravelo


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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The best part of this trade is we no longer have to listen to America ramble on and on about how good Semien is and will be.

I stop following Sox topics around August, nice to see somebody took up the Semien bandwagon :oops:

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Dr. Ken what was your favorite moment of the Phegley era??? I remember I told you he was no Johnny Bench...and you had one of your snide ass comments :roll: Chicago got its City Series hard on already :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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So, is it still bad to spend lots of money? Am I still baseball ignorant?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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So, is it still bad to spend lots of money? Am I still baseball ignorant?

No, Yes

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So, is it still bad to spend lots of money? Am I still baseball ignorant?

No, Yes
Shouldn't you be busy throwing stones at Frank while being just as bad with less frequency?

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