Wasn't Grandal known for his pitch framing? Are there any rankings on that or something that would include all parts of catching? Grandals ranking on wild pitches and passed balls isn't surprising watching White Sox games, but would be curious if his defensive rankings improve when other factors are included. That was one of the reasons the White Sox were so happy to sign him (along with his bat).

There's been arguments here on how he fools the umpire and that it should be part of his skillset when judging his terrible catching. Fangraphs famously has fallen into this trap.

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Cease gives up 11 runs in 0.2 innings…ouch.

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I would go further regarding the concept of "pitch framing" and submit that if a catcher is moving his glove post-pitch in an effort to fool the umpire, the pitch should automatically be called a ball.

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Glove location shouldn’t matter at all. I hate seeing obvious strikes called balls because the pitcher missed on location and the catcher had to stab at it.

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It's obviously leading to robo-umps. They just aren't quite ready for prime time.

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“They” suggest that’s why he has so many passed balls, trying too hard to frame too many pitches and ends up just missing them.

That's his niche. Framing and looking for walks. Kudos to him for making a career out of it. Now he catches another break. The shift. He may have a good year but it won't ever change my opinion of him as a player that slides by with tricks and that you can't count on him.

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we should really just take the human element out of baseball completely. Just let really. Smart. People. program a simulator and play Strat O Matic. season will be over in a couple days, no muss no fuss.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Carlos Rodon already out. Maybe the Sox got one right

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He is done. He won't last 2 weeks before he screws up his knee again. He had a very good career. The Sox were fools not to trade for a catcherbut that is consistent with cheap assed Reinny.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
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Did you see where the Cuban team is 0-2 in the World Baseball Classic. And apparently Robert is really struggling to hit breaking pitches, notably sliders where he hasn't been able to touch the ball.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

This is quite the breaking news story. What exactly are your connections where you acquire such inside information?

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I watched them show the video which showed him striking out three times in one game all on sliders. He singled on a fastball in his 4th at bat. Do you think that I made this up?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Watched the highlights of yesterday's game and was happy to see my guy Burger hitting two bombs including one in dead center field that might have been 500 feet if the huge wall hadn't gotten in the way.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

It's painful reading sox message boards with some people insisting on being pissed for the entire season because of Clevinger's presence. You don't have to cheer for him but give it up already.

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I’m pissed he’s their only notable FA.

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how did they not get a LH starter?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

$ and Garret Crochet.

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I was fine with Benintendi. I didn't see the upside for the White Sox in giving Clevinger a 1 year deal without a team option.

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He's just the LaRussa replacement for Woke ire.

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There is at least a legitimate reason not to like Clevinger. TLR was hated for being old.

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Nothing to do with the ire. Larussa was/is a fall down drunk. He fell asleep in the dugout and was nothing but a mean drunk, Plus, the guy knew shit about pitching because his butt was saved throughout his entire career by Dave Duncan. On top of everything else, the guy hadn't managed for a decade and lost touch with young players and the changes to the game.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Exactly. Pitching, fielding and hitting changed so much in the 10 years he was “away” theres no way his previous 40 years in the game could keep up.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Well they didn't.

AJ Hinch was banging out the wins in Detroit.

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Uncle Tony?...Let me introduce you to my cousin, Clevvy.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

There are worse reasons to dislike a guy.

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The Sox won 93 games with tons of injuries in 2021. Does LaRussa get credit or is he only responsible when they suck?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don