The fact that they both were shitty defenders puts them in a category below the true all around greats of the game.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

You think center field is easier to play than first base?

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No. But left field certainly is and so really is right field which really is given to the guy with the best arm in the outfield. Do you think that first base is an easy position to play? Think for a second before you answer that. I think that first base is a very undervalued position because of the number of plays that the guy makes that influence a game. Think about it. How many plays does a right fielder have in a given game and contrast that with how many plays a first baseman makes? Its probably around eight to ten times more for a given game.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Left field and first base are interchangable imo.. that's where you hide a butchers.

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No. Not first base. One of the weaknesses of the Sox right now is first base defensively. They have no one who is good at the position.. I think part of it is because of the juiced baseball and how deep infielders have to play thereby making more off base throws to first. The ability of a first baseman to field errant throws has been very undervalued.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

The Sox suck because their pitching blows.

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Are you telling us anything that we do not already know? Worry about you own team. It sucks also.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

First base defense means dick in the grand scheme of things, Eloy, Abreu..both butchers.. but if the pitching was decent, they'd win 85-90 games.

I'm not worried about the Sox meathead, I'll be worried about the Sox when they can put together two seasons in a row of 90 plus wins.

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He won’t play first base or DH. I was assured by people on these pages that he would stick as an outfielder. Case closed. He’s not moving to first base.

Nope. Especially in this age of the juiced baseball and the fact that infielders must take defensive positions farther away from first base because of the speed of the ball coming to them, more bad throws to first base are occurring. The ability of a first baseman to dig out bad throws as well as participate in the many shifts that defensive players need to play now requires a lot more athleticism on the part of a first baseman. And the White Sox are suffering because of the defensive weakness in their first basemen right now.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Bullshit. Obviously you do not know shit about the game of baseball. First base right now is a valued defensive position and is a weakness of this team.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

He’s absolutely brutal in the field. He has to be the worst fielder in MLB.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

If this is true, then Theo may have sold the White Sox a bad bill of goods. You can find slugging but shitty defending outfielders anywhere. Let's hope Cease makes it as a decent MLB starter or this trade isn't looking good for the Sox

Really? The Cubs could use one.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The Cubs have the 3rd highest OPS in all of baseball. 4th in runs scored. Try again.

Funny shit. He's a baby for cripes sake. He is very athletic and is learning at the major league level. HE also has a great arm. The tools are all there. The kid is going to be awesome. When people start talking about Jimenez being the worst fielder in all of baseball with the small sample set that they have seen, they obviously do not understand anything about the growth curve for a major league player.

As for his injury, it was a stupid thing for him to do namely trying to climb that fence. I chalk that up to youth. YOu do not do that unless you've practiced it quite a bit in the ball park that you are playing in. Obviously he hadn't done that. Fortunately he didn't break his leg in the process.
I think that the Sox better give him a crash course in how and what to do defensively. It looks to me that he wants to show boat and they are trying to get him away from that. It happens a lot with Hispanic players from poor countries and it looks like he has a lot of hot dog in him.
I look at him and then I think about Moncada and how many people wanted to give up on him also. A young kid with terrific tools learning at the major league level. Now he is a stud and will be for many many years. I predict the same thing for Jimenez as long as he doesn't go the Puig route as a player and let ego take over.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

It ain't coming from their outfielders.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Hey man, like I said, I always thought he was decent(fielding) in the minors, unless you had possible PED abuse muscle tears/etc. He used to run like the wind as I recall.

Heyward is one of the best hitting outfielders in the NL this year. Bryant has played a ton of games out there and will continue to play more.

Jorge Soler

100% agree.

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You say that as if it's a good thing. Bryant is worth substantially less in left than he is at third.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No argument there... but realistically I don't think a guy who is 6'5 can hold up at third base long term in the MLB, physically. It's why Baez is going to get the big payday.

Good, then the Cubs can pay him less in FA.

Yeah, 6'5" is huge for a 3B guy. A helluva lot of plays at 3rd involve diving for baseballs and requires very quick reactions. I don't think that is his future. I remember when Derrick Lee was coming up in the Pads organization. They had him at 3rd and he was TERRIBLE in high A. It was obvious to me that his future was going to be at either 1st base or left field going forward.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

He’s not resigning there but yes they are making him more affordable for another team.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Exclusive CFMB shot of Eloy in the locker room tonight with a message for Theo :

He signed a ball for my toddler in KC earlier this month and has hit 5 home runs since. Nice guy, he signed for just about every Sox fan who was waiting for one after warm-ups.

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Want to take back that asinine opinion?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

ELOYs Time officially started tonight.

He owns this city now and will own it for the next 10/15 years. Maybe more.