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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:23 pm 
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Get some early runs here fellas. Keep the line moving.

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Well, there's a break. Take advantage of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:31 pm 
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Is there a worse player in baseball right now than Swamp Donkey or a worse combination of starters than Dunn and Rios?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 pm 
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Rios crushed that ball and he still couldn't get a hit. That guy is wearing it this year like no one I've ever seen.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Yeah, he was wearing it last Saturday when he hit into 3 double plays against Detroit :roll:


This team always looks like shit against the Twins. Should have and could have gotten at least 1 run there, instead the Sox find themselves trailing. I guess thats about the norm for them in Minneapolis.

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No Morneau, no Mauer, no Thome for that matter...The Twins are like the Road Runner in those classic Warner Bros. cartoons I remember watching as a kid, while the White Sox are like Wile E. Coyote! In plain English, whatever the Sox try to do explodes in their face vs. this team, kinda like the Coyote always got in the cartoon! DAGGUMMIT!!!!


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That was an unnecessary eye roll, Frank. I realize Rios hasn't played very well this year but his .222 BABIP says he has hit into his share (and some others share) of tough luck.


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Again, Ozzie decides to bat Dunn way too low it the order. He is going to get garbage all day and does not provide protection for Q and PK. Fucking ridiculous. Move AJ down one spot. Pierre is 1 for 15 and he trots him back out there instead of Lillibridge.

I am far from an Ozzie hater, I think he is a good manager, but he is obviously managing scared up there in Minnesota. KW has to tell him to sit Pierre, who gives a shit if Ozzie's feelings will be hurt.

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That was an unnecessary eye roll, Frank. I realize Rios hasn't played very well this year but his .222 BABIP says he has hit into his share (and some others share) of tough luck.


He has had terrible luck, he is going to be fine.

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HossasSlavicRage wrote:
Again, Ozzie decides to bat Dunn way too low it the order. He is going to get garbage all day and does not provide protection for Q and PK. Fucking ridiculous. Move AJ down one spot. Pierre is 1 for 15 and he trots him back out there instead of Lillibridge.

I am far from an Ozzie hater, I think he is a good manager, but he is obviously managing scared up here in Minnesota. KW has to tell him to sit Pierre, who gives a shit if Ozzie's feelings will be hurt.

You're not going to see Brent Lillibridge until maybe late in the ballgame for defensive purposes, and he likely won't start again until Saturday night at Arizona when the Diamondbacks are scheduled to start lefty Zach Duke. Sorry to disappoint you...


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Rios has hit into some tough luck for sure, but he has also failed to execute in key situations a good number of times this season.

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They're already in the 5th inning, and Michael Cuddyer's solo homer is the only difference in this ballgame, currently at 1-0 Minnesota...Are you kidding me?!


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That was a big hit by Morel because it cleared Pierre and they can start next inning with Alexei, Quentin and Pauly. Pierre is like the pitcher in an NL lineup only Ozzie hits him first.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Rios has hit into some tough luck for sure, but he has also failed to execute in key situations a good number of times this season.


As has everybody else...

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Again, Ozzie decides to bat Dunn way too low it the order. He is going to get garbage all day and does not provide protection for Q and PK. Fucking ridiculous. Move AJ down one spot. Pierre is 1 for 15 and he trots him back out there instead of Lillibridge.

I am far from an Ozzie hater, I think he is a good manager, but he is obviously managing scared up here in Minnesota. KW has to tell him to sit Pierre, who gives a shit if Ozzie's feelings will be hurt.

You're not going to see Brent Lillibridge until maybe late in the ballgame for defensive purposes, and he likely won't start again until Saturday night at Arizona when the Diamondbacks are scheduled to start lefty Zach Duke. Sorry to disappoint you...


I am not Lillibridge crazy, I know he is overperforming, but Juan Pierre is completely useless. I gave him plenty of shots, tried to rationalize using him but it makes no sense. He hurts the team. Great guy, works hard, just too old. This lineup needs another power hitter in the lineup.

Earl Weaver once said: "Give me the big cocksuckers who can hit the fucking ball out of the park and you cannot make any goddamn mistakes"

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That was a big hit by Morel because it cleared Pierre and they can start next inning with Alexei, Quentin and Pauly. Pierre is like the pitcher in an NL lineup only Ozzie hits him first.

Speaking of the NL, Keyser. With the White Sox going to Arizona to face the Diamondbacks this weekend, who does Ozzie start at first base without the DH? Adam "The Strikeout Machine" Dunn? Paul "A Likely White Sox All-Star" Konerko? Mark "Forgot About Me?" Teahen? It's an age-old question...


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SHARK wrote:
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That was a big hit by Morel because it cleared Pierre and they can start next inning with Alexei, Quentin and Pauly. Pierre is like the pitcher in an NL lineup only Ozzie hits him first.

Speaking of the NL, Keyser. With the White Sox going to Arizona to face the Diamondbacks this weekend, who does Ozzie start at first base without the DH? Adam "The Strikeout Machine" Dunn? Paul "A Likely White Sox All-Star" Konerko? Mark "Forgot About Me?" Teahen? It's an age-old question...


He has said Dunn will start at least one day.

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According to whitesox.com, the D-Backs will start righties in two of the three, starting with ex-White Sox righty Dan Hudson tomorrow vs. Herb Lawrence's buddy Edwin Jackson...


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HossasSlavicRage wrote:
I am not Lillibridge crazy, I know he is overperforming, but Juan Pierre is completely useless. I gave him plenty of shots, tried to rationalize using him but it makes no sense. He hurts the team. Great guy, works hard, just too old. This lineup needs another power hitter in the lineup.



I agree with you to a point. But they really shouldn't need another power hitter. Ozzie isn't going to bench Pierre, but at least he could bat him on the bottom. I don't think the actual order is so critical as the fact that you are giving your worst hitter the most plate appearances.

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HossasSlavicRage wrote:
I am not Lillibridge crazy, I know he is overperforming, but Juan Pierre is completely useless. I gave him plenty of shots, tried to rationalize using him but it makes no sense. He hurts the team. Great guy, works hard, just too old. This lineup needs another power hitter in the lineup.



I agree with you to a point. But they really shouldn't need another power hitter. Ozzie isn't going to bench Pierre, but at least he could bat him on the bottom. I don't think the actual order is so critical as the fact that you are giving your worst hitter the most plate appearances.

Joe, the White Sox tried that once before with Juan Pierre, batting him at the bottom of Ozzie's lineup. It didn't last long. Besides, if Pierre's not leading off, who leads off for the Sox? Alexei Ramirez? Gordon Beckham? Brent Morel? Brent Lillibridge? If I were Ozzie, my choice would be either Ramirez or Beckham...That's not about to happen either.


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....and the offense is back to its late April output :?

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Joe, the White Sox tried that once before with Juan Pierre, batting him at the bottom of Ozzie's lineup. It didn't last long. Besides, if Pierre's not leading off, who leads off for the Sox? Alexei Ramirez? Gordon Beckham? Brent Morel? Brent Lillibridge? If I were Ozzie, my choice would be either Ramirez or Beckham...That's not about to happen either.


I think Rios is probably the best bet of a guy that is somewhat logical, but he's been so bad himself, I don't know. Personally, I'd lead Quentin off, since you still have enough power for a good middle of the order. But that kind of thinking is too outre for Ozzie, or indeed, for most managers.

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Joe, the White Sox tried that once before with Juan Pierre, batting him at the bottom of Ozzie's lineup. It didn't last long. Besides, if Pierre's not leading off, who leads off for the Sox? Alexei Ramirez? Gordon Beckham? Brent Morel? Brent Lillibridge? If I were Ozzie, my choice would be either Ramirez or Beckham...That's not about to happen either.


I think Rios is probably the best bet of a guy that is somewhat logical, but he's been so bad himself, I don't know. Personally, I'd lead Quentin off, since you still have enough power for a good middle of the order. But that kind of thinking is too outre for Ozzie, or indeed, for most managers.

At the rate this season is going, the White Sox won't be "ALL IN" much longer, and the time could be near where Ozzie may have to look at guys like Alexei & Gordon as potential lead-off hitters moving forward. He may not have much choice.


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First it was Carl 'Cy Young' Pavano and now it's Nick 'Big Train' Blackburn. Amazing.


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Maybe Ozzie is right to have them bunt and steal. At least that only results in one out at a time instead of the incessant GDP

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Piss poor effort from the offense once again.

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Just like yesterday, the White Sox/Twins' game is flying right by, and the Sox are 6 outs away from going 0-4 to a team below them in the A.L. Central! "ALL IN" my ass! :oops: :x


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Here's an out. We won't do anything with it. :roll:

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2 on, 2 out.

AJ coming up.

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Nevermind. :x

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There's the team a learned to hate back in April and early May. Welcome back just in time to make the Cubs series interesting. Bob is right. Any discussion about this team contending is just Hooterville bullshit.

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