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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:36 pm 
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You're just wrong. You're so sensitive about people thinking Cub fans are "dumb", your perspective on the subject is fucked up.

You're just wrong. You're so obsessed with portarying Cub fans as "dumb", your perspective on the subject is fucked up.


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Why do you think saying a fanbase is particularly optimistic is mocking? Am I also mocking Sox fans when I say we are largely pessimistic? "Wait 'til next year" is the motto of one particular fanbase, isn't it? Or am I just making shit up?

No, saying they're pessimistic is a backdoor way of saying they're smart. Cub fans are idiots who get CONNED regularly. Sox fans are smarter and harder to fool with hype.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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No, saying they're pessimistic is a backdoor way of saying they're smart.



I'm not sure why you feel that way. I don't find being negative about the majority of transactions, trades, and signings to be "smart". It's just negative.

The Sox haven't exactly won a bunch of World Series themselves. Sox fans could have just as easily adopted "Wait 'til next year" as a slogan. They didn't, and that isn't because they're smart.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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I dont think we'll ever agree on this. All good.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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the fanbases are different. sox fans are fucking ornery and full of spite and hate. otherwise they would just be cub fans where all the fun is.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
I dont think we'll ever agree on this. All good.



You don't want to agree. You'd rather find hidden meaning in what I'm saying rather than just accepting it at face value. Maybe that's the bullshit you had to put up with as a South side Cub fan.

I said I don't think Sox fans are any smarter than Cub fans. You just don't want to believe that I really mean it. It doesn't fit your narrative.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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the fanbases are different. sox fans are fucking ornery and full of spite and hate. otherwise they would just be cub fans where all the fun is.



I think you're a pretty typical Sox fan. If the Sox organization had all the same players that are in the Cubs organization I'm certain you would be negative about them. I don't think that makes you smart. I just think it makes you a Sox fan. :lol:

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Emilio is an excellent signing if not asked to be a starter. GREAT Platoon guy because he will gave a hot streak, can play any position and can run (Better for NL) b ut still a good player to have on your team.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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the fanbases are different. sox fans are fucking ornery and full of spite and hate.

All 4 of them

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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the fanbases are different. sox fans are fucking ornery and full of spite and hate.

All 4 of them

Watching Bonifacio run the bases certainly won't improve their disposition

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I dont think we'll ever agree on this. All good.



You don't want to agree. You'd rather find hidden meaning in what I'm saying rather than just accepting it at face value. Maybe that's the bullshit you had to put up with as a South side Cub fan.

No hidden meaning necessary. How many times have you written CONNED in regards to Cub fans

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I said I don't think Sox fans are any smarter than Cub fans. You just don't want to believe that I really mean it. It doesn't fit your narrative.

Ok, just to be perfectly clear here, you dont think Sox fans are more knowledgeable about baseball than Cub fans? (Im not talking general intelligence)

If so, then I guess I was wrong about that point.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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rogers park bryan wrote:
No hidden meaning necessary. How many times have you written CONNED in regards to Cub fans


Well, I do think Cub fans are being conned by Epstein. But I don't think it's because they're dumb. Epstein is a good con man. And the Cubs happen to be a good situation for a con man. The fans want to win so bad. It's understandable. Smart people get conned all the time. The con man plays on their hopes and dreams. The guy that invests in the Ponzi scheme isn't stupid. He just wants so bad to believe and make 100% on his money. I would use the word susceptible rather than stupid.


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Ok, just to be perfectly clear here, you dont think Sox fans are more knowledgeable about baseball than Cub fans? (Im not talking general intelligence)
If so, then I guess I was wrong about that point.


No. Both fanbases have equal percentages of knowledgeable fans. I consider you and IMU more knowledgeable than many Sox fans.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Watching Bonifacio run the bases certainly won't improve their disposition

Exactly and he's not a good defensive player. I remember calling him the Cubs Alejandro De Aza. Oh god typing that name just ruined my day.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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I consider you and IMU more knowledgeable than many Sox fans.
I know one Sox fan that rpb thinks is an idiot!

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Stupid RPB can't figure out that Joe thinks he is gullible and only a little bit dumb

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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No. Both fanbases have equal percentages of knowledgeable fans. I consider you and IMU more knowledgeable than many Sox fans.

Thank you, sir.

But my Brett Jackson thought will forever haunt me.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
No. Both fanbases have equal percentages of knowledgeable fans. I consider you and IMU more knowledgeable than many Sox fans.

Thank you, sir.

But my Brett Jackson thought will forever haunt me.

Yes, that is still pretty humorous.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Bonafacio is fine as a bench player and once a week starter.

Unfortunately, he will be overused because Ventura sucks. He'll probably end up being this year's version of Moises Sierra.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Bonafacio is fine as a bench player and once a week starter.

Unfortunately, he will be overused because Ventura sucks. He'll probably end up being this year's version of Moises Sierra.



In fairness to Ventura, carrying Konerko last season had his hands tied with what he could do with his bench. I think ideally on this team, Bonifacio is going to start a lot of the time, but at many different positions.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Bonafacio is fine as a bench player and once a week starter.

Unfortunately, he will be overused because Ventura sucks. He'll probably end up being this year's version of Moises Sierra.



In fairness to Ventura, carrying Konerko last season had his hands tied with what he could do with his bench. I think ideally on this team, Bonifacio is going to start a lot of the time, but at many different positions.


He could potentially start 120 games easy, 3B/2B primarily. Not sure where else they are comfortable with him playing.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Bonafacio is fine as a bench player and once a week starter.

Unfortunately, he will be overused because Ventura sucks. He'll probably end up being this year's version of Moises Sierra.



In fairness to Ventura, carrying Konerko last season had his hands tied with what he could do with his bench. I think ideally on this team, Bonifacio is going to start a lot of the time, but at many different positions.


He could potentially start 120 games easy, 3B/2B primarily. Not sure where else they are comfortable with him playing.


He plays all the outfield positions adequately, doesn't he? Maybe they can get rid of both Danks brothers.

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[He could potentially start 120 games easy, 3B/2B primarily..


that would be a disaster.

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[He could potentially start 120 games easy, 3B/2B primarily..


that would be a disaster.



Why do you think so? He should be fine giving three or four different guys a break each week.

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he's a terrible hitter, that's why.

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he's a terrible hitter, that's why.


He's not really terrible though. It's not 1996 anymore. We're starting to see Paul Popovich type utility men again.

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I understand that. I'm looking at numbers relative to league averages.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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I understand that. I'm looking at numbers relative to league averages.



Right, but Cabrera and Abreu and Trout, etc. are in those league averages. I'm not some big Bonifacio fan, but having a switch-hitter who can play all the positions isn't a negative.

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they're not dumping guys like Beckham and DeAza and Viciedo to replace them with somebody worse! At least I hope not!

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they're not dumping guys like Beckham and DeAza and Viciedo to replace them with somebody worse! At least I hope not!


They didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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am I looking at Bizzarro Fangraphs or something?? :lol: WTF am I not seeing?

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am I looking at Bizzarro Fangraphs or something?? :lol: WTF am I not seeing?


How bad those guys on the Sox were. No one is saying Neifi Bonerface is good. They are just saying he is better than those other turds.


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