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Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important.

If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

F5.

The next time you're right about MLB will be the first time you're right about MLB.

I will buy you drinks that night.

IMU wrote:

F5.

The next time you're right about MLB will be the first time you're right about MLB.

I will buy you drinks that night.

Never would an eyeroll be more approriate than rifht here.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go

Bagels wrote:

See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go

And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them.

Douchebag wrote:

Bagels wrote:

See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go

And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them.

I think he would have been speaking this time.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9, 104

Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10

The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon).

Cubs avg=25
Sox avg = 10.2

If you seriously think that there is no difference between 3 and 15 you are not being realistic

2010: Manny Machado #3 Jake Skole #15 Machado easy
2011: Trevor Bauer #3 Jed Bradley #15 Bauer easy
2012: Mike Zunino #3 Tyler Naquin #15 a wash at this point
2013: Jon Gray #3 Braden Shipley #15 Gray easy
2014: Carlos Rodon #3 Sean Newcomb #15 Rodon easy
2015: Brendan Rodgers #3 Trent Clark #15 Rodgers ranked #40 by BA Clark #49... too early to call

conns7901 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9

Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10

The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon).

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat.

TurdFerguson wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat.

Again, this past draft isn't being counted, for obvious reasons for the Cubs, as they are no longer in "rebuild" mode. Furthermore, there is a severe drop-off even from the #2 to #3 pick. Good reading.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important.

If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools.

FavreFan wrote:

Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:42 pm ]
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Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea.

Author:	Bagels [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:43 pm ]
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Eh fuck it there's a finals game starting soon

Author:	Bagels [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:44 pm ]
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See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive.

Author:	IMU [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important. If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools.

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Author:	IMU [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:49 pm ]
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F5. The next time you're right about MLB will be the first time you're right about MLB. I will buy you drinks that night.

Author:	IMU [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
IMU wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important. If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools. For Frank, as apparently edits should not be allowed.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. I'd be okay with that. Instead on the South Side you get James Shields and Adam Dunn.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. It helps greatly if your front office can make more than 3 good 1st-round picks every quarter-century.

Author:	IMU [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:56 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: IMU wrote: F5. The next time you're right about MLB will be the first time you're right about MLB. I will buy you drinks that night. Never would an eyeroll be more approriate than rifht here. You and 312player are now in full agreement with each other. You comfortable with that seat?

Author:	leashyourkids [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:57 pm ]
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Frank's rifht.

Author:	IMU [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:58 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote: Frank's rifht. I'm a gentleman so I won't jump down his throat for that edit.

Author:	conns7901 [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:59 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately. Not on purpose though.

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Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:27 am ]
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Bagels wrote: See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:30 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Bagels wrote: See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them. I think he would have been speaking this time.

Author:	THE INQUISITOR [ Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:01 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Douchebag wrote: Bagels wrote: See here's where you really miss hawk, he'd tell you there's still 8 innings to go And he wouldn't speak through 7 of them. I think he would have been speaking this time. Hawk " That is the GREATEST comeback I have ever seen"

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:51 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. The Cubs went through a couple year stretch where they were obviously losing games on purpose, and still won more games than the Sox.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
conns7901 wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately. Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9 Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10 The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon).

Author:	THE INQUISITOR [ Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9, 104 Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10 The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon). Cubs avg=25 Sox avg = 10.2 Rodon was the consenus 1-1 pick going into the season ..he slipped a little but was skipped by Houston who instead took Brady Aiken who had agreed to a deal. The Marlins also took a HS pitcher Tyler Kolek. Having Boras as his agent did not help Rodon. If you seriously think that there is no difference between 3 and 15 you are not being realistic 2010: Manny Machado #3 Jake Skole #15 Machado easy 2011: Trevor Bauer #3 Jed Bradley #15 Bauer easy 2012: Mike Zunino #3 Tyler Naquin #15 a wash at this point 2013: Jon Gray #3 Braden Shipley #15 Gray easy 2014: Carlos Rodon #3 Sean Newcomb #15 Rodon easy 2015: Brendan Rodgers #3 Trent Clark #15 Rodgers ranked #40 by BA Clark #49... too early to call

Author:	Kirkwood [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Frazier has Dunn/LaRoche disease

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: conns7901 wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately. Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9 Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10 The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon). since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:37 pm ]
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TurdFerguson wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: conns7901 wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately. Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9 Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10 The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon). since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat. Again, this past draft isn't being counted, for obvious reasons for the Cubs, as they are no longer in "rebuild" mode. Furthermore, there is a severe drop-off even from the #2 to #3 pick. Good reading.

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: DFA This Team
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: conns7901 wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. Sox have also had pretty high draft picks lately. Cubs highest overall picks since 2012: 6, 2, 4, 9 Sox highest overall picks since 2012: 13, 17, 3, 8, 10 The Cubs averaged a 5-6th pick overall, the Sox have averaged 10-11th. In reality, picks 3-15 tend (not very well, though) to be interchangeable. However, a #2 overall pick (like the cubs had in 2013 and turned into Kris Bryant) tends to be much more valuable than the next grouping of picks, and the Sox have only ever climbed as high as 3rd overall (Rodon). since theo has taken over, the sox have drafted ahead of the Cubs 3 out of 4 years. Nice stat. Again, this past draft isn't being counted, for obvious reasons for the Cubs, as they are no longer in "rebuild" mode. Furthermore, there is a severe drop-off even from the #2 to #3 pick. Good reading. that is revisionist history. They blew away expectations last year. And as I have heard than enough from sox nation, they were simply a third place team in the central. The other problem I have with the Cubs not going for it. I'm on my phone so I can't post it. Go look up Cubs sox payrolls. They never diverge by more than five million dollars. When Cubs cut payroll so did the sox. Last, regarding the gap in 2 and 3. That is completely draft dependent. Bryant wasn't a consensus pick at 2. There were no true top prospects that draft. And the sox didn't get shorted at three. That was a three player draft. The Cubs went under slot at 4 because of that. You can just admit it, theo can draft. I remember being pissed the sox got Rodon while the Cubs got a fat kid from Indiana. Hail theo.

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:28 pm ]
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IMU wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. MLB is the sport where draft order is by far the least important. If you want to sound close to intelligent, talk about international free agent bonus pools.

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:50 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Isn't that how the EPL works when team refuses to be competitive? Sounds like a great idea. In MLB, you get rewarded with guys like Bryant and Schwarber for refusing to be competitive. The year the Cubs drafted Schwarber, the Sox drafted Rodon 1 spot ahead of Schwarber after the Sox finished with a record WORSE than the Cubs WHO WERE TANKING! Sure, the Sox try to win each year. They just aren't very good at putting a team together. They draft and develop position players poorly, sign mostly older players past their prime and are afraid to truly rebuild, because their fans lack the loyalty to allow the team that option. Instead they try to catch lightning in a bottle year after year and it's just not working.