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I am sure Puig and Sale would never have any conflict.

too early to acquire him, what until he's 35-36 years old

No. His last "great" season was 2014, and even then he only posted a 147 wRC+ (10th in MLB) on the strength of a .356 BABIP (4th in the MLB). For context, V-Mart, Joey Bats, Rizzo and Buster Posey all posted similar wRC+ figures with BABIP's that were within one standard deviation of the mean. Last year he posted a wOBA of .328, which while it looks great compared to current Sox, is rather pedestrian for someone so "skilled" as Puig, and this year his wOBA is .309 (basically Todd Frazier without the HR's), on the strength of .307 BABIP.

He hasn't been decidedly unlucky, he's just not hitting the ball nearly as hard nearly as often as he did when he was "great", and to top it off the guy just doesn't walk, his ~5% walk rate is in the bottom 20% of the MLB of all players with at least 300 PA's.

He's the worst parts of Todd Frazier and Jose Abreu, and to top it all off he's a raging douche. The last thing this front office needs is an excuse to not properly tank and acquire prospects.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

I am sure Puig and Sale would never have any conflict.

It would be a blood bath within weeks. Please make this happen.

I vote 'yes' because I wish more misery and lunacy for that clubhouse for my personal amusement.

Maybe they can hire Milton Bradley as hitting coach too.

More looney toons on the payroll than Warner Brothers.

Don Tiny wrote:

look...I don't wish ill on the Sox.

But this is the type of move they would make. I feel bad for Sox fans.

Au contraire, he would fit right in with this trainwreck of a circus.

There is no problem on the Sox that Puig is the answer to

RFDC wrote:

There is no problem on the Sox that Puig is the answer to

Since Alexei left, the Sox are below their typical allotment of Cubans.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Au contraire, he would fit right in with this trainwreck of a circus.

This post is the favorite for the "metaphor of the year" voting.

Author:	'77Cubs [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:04 pm ]
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He's been demoted by the Dodgers so why the hell not??

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:05 pm ]
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Yes

Author:	KDdidit [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:05 pm ]
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Sure, Rick Rentaria can talk to him. Then next season Ozzie can.

Author:	'77Cubs [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:06 pm ]
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Could be a great acquisition.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:10 pm ]
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Yes. Then hire Ozzie back to manage the team!

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Author:	'77Cubs [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:22 pm ]
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If Ventura doesn't "retire to his family" after this season something is seriously wrong.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:11 pm ]
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No. His last "great" season was 2014, and even then he only posted a 147 wRC+ (10th in MLB) on the strength of a .356 BABIP (4th in the MLB). For context, V-Mart, Joey Bats, Rizzo and Buster Posey all posted similar wRC+ figures with BABIP's that were within one standard deviation of the mean. Last year he posted a wOBA of .328, which while it looks great compared to current Sox, is rather pedestrian for someone so "skilled" as Puig, and this year his wOBA is .309 (basically Todd Frazier without the HR's), on the strength of .307 BABIP. He hasn't been decidedly unlucky, he's just not hitting the ball nearly as hard nearly as often as he did when he was "great", and to top it off the guy just doesn't walk, his ~5% walk rate is in the bottom 20% of the MLB of all players with at least 300 PA's. He's the worst parts of Todd Frazier and Jose Abreu, and to top it all off he's a raging douche. The last thing this front office needs is an excuse to not properly tank and acquire prospects.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:13 pm ]
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I vote 'yes' because I wish more misery and lunacy for that clubhouse for my personal amusement. Maybe they can hire Milton Bradley as hitting coach too. More looney toons on the payroll than Warner Brothers.

Author:	conns7901 [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:17 pm ]
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I am sure Puig and Sale would never have any conflict.

Author:	Linderman Edgewater [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:19 pm ]
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Who are they talking about trading for him? Garcia I hope.

Author:	billypootons [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:29 am ]
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too early to acquire him, what until he's 35-36 years old

Author:	Hockey Gay [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:56 am ]
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conns7901 wrote: I am sure Puig and Sale would never have any conflict. It would be a blood bath within weeks. Please make this happen.

Author:	Cashman [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:22 am ]
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billypootons wrote: too early to acquire him, what until he's 35-36 years old Agreed! Way tooo early. This needs to be a Griffey type acquisition.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:28 am ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: No. His last "great" season was 2014, and even then he only posted a 147 wRC+ (10th in MLB) on the strength of a .356 BABIP (4th in the MLB). For context, V-Mart, Joey Bats, Rizzo and Buster Posey all posted similar wRC+ figures with BABIP's that were within one standard deviation of the mean. Last year he posted a wOBA of .328, which while it looks great compared to current Sox, is rather pedestrian for someone so "skilled" as Puig, and this year his wOBA is .309 (basically Todd Frazier without the HR's), on the strength of .307 BABIP. He hasn't been decidedly unlucky, he's just not hitting the ball nearly as hard nearly as often as he did when he was "great", and to top it off the guy just doesn't walk, his ~5% walk rate is in the bottom 20% of the MLB of all players with at least 300 PA's. He's the worst parts of Todd Frazier and Jose Abreu, and to top it all off he's a raging douche. The last thing this front office needs is an excuse to not properly tank and acquire prospects.

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Author:	KDdidit [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:14 am ]
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Bagels wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: No. His last "great" season was 2014, and even then he only posted a 147 wRC+ (10th in MLB) on the strength of a .356 BABIP (4th in the MLB). For context, V-Mart, Joey Bats, Rizzo and Buster Posey all posted similar wRC+ figures with BABIP's that were within one standard deviation of the mean. Last year he posted a wOBA of .328, which while it looks great compared to current Sox, is rather pedestrian for someone so "skilled" as Puig, and this year his wOBA is .309 (basically Todd Frazier without the HR's), on the strength of .307 BABIP. He hasn't been decidedly unlucky, he's just not hitting the ball nearly as hard nearly as often as he did when he was "great", and to top it off the guy just doesn't walk, his ~5% walk rate is in the bottom 20% of the MLB of all players with at least 300 PA's. He's the worst parts of Todd Frazier and Jose Abreu, and to top it all off he's a raging douche. The last thing this front office needs is an excuse to not properly tank and acquire prospects.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:41 am ]
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Hockey Gay wrote: conns7901 wrote: I am sure Puig and Sale would never have any conflict. It would be a blood bath within weeks. Please make this happen. Baseball version of Sid vs. Arn.

Author:	City of Fools [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:59 am ]
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Don Tiny wrote: I vote 'yes' because I wish more misery and lunacy for that clubhouse for my personal amusement. Maybe they can hire Milton Bradley as hitting coach too. More looney toons on the payroll than Warner Brothers. look...I don't wish ill on the Sox. But this is the type of move they would make. I feel bad for Sox fans.

Author:	Cashman [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:35 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote: Don Tiny wrote: I vote 'yes' because I wish more misery and lunacy for that clubhouse for my personal amusement. Maybe they can hire Milton Bradley as hitting coach too. More looney toons on the payroll than Warner Brothers. look...I don't wish ill on the Sox. But this is the type of move they would make. I feel bad for Sox fans. I bet you any money, Kenny was like FUCK YEAH he can be the centerpiece for Sale. Hahn was like ahhhh no, maybe james shields.

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:39 pm ]
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There is no problem on the Sox that Puig is the answer to

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:59 pm ]
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Au contraire, he would fit right in with this trainwreck of a circus.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:01 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Au contraire, he would fit right in with this trainwreck of a circus. This post is the favorite for the "metaphor of the year" voting.

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:04 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: There is no problem on the Sox that Puig is the answer to Since Alexei left, the Sox are below their typical allotment of Cubans.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:11 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote: RFDC wrote: There is no problem on the Sox that Puig is the answer to Since Alexei left, the Sox are below their typical allotment of Cubans. Bad Cubans, too (and members of Bad Cubans). Alexei, Viciedo, Abreu...they haven't had a good run of late.

Author:	Chus [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:08 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Au contraire, he would fit right in with this trainwreck of a circus. This post is the favorite for the "metaphor of the year" voting. It's like a tree falling in the forest, and nobody there to hear it.