good dolphin wrote:
Now he needs another great draft in Mid June.
I think you mean he finally needs a great draft...
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon May 22, 2017 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
This really is the month that will define his career. So far so good with Robert. Now he needs another great draft in Mid June followed by properly moving assets. I think the Quintana discussions will drag on because of the ask but it sounds like there is a nice market developing for Robertson. He needs to identify trade targets for Holland and possibly Gonzalez. I think he needs to move those two early in the process because of their more modest talents. I think he can wait back on the rest of the bullpen arms. Additional relievers are always on every contenders wish list so teams will be calling him about the guys who have been productive up to the last hour of the deadline and even beyond. Finally, he needs to work some magic to find a spot for Frazier and Melky. I have a feeling someone will take Melky after the waiver period but only provide salary relief. Perform well over the next month and he will have set himself up with a job now and into the future. Perform poorly and he is looking at a lifetime of assistant jobs. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
good dolphin wrote: This really is the month that will define his career. So far so good with Robert. Now he needs another great draft in Mid June followed by properly moving assets. I think the Quintana discussions will drag on because of the ask but it sounds like there is a nice market developing for Robertson. He needs to identify trade targets for Holland and possibly Gonzalez. I think he needs to move those two early in the process because of their more modest talents. I think he can wait back on the rest of the bullpen arms. Additional relievers are always on every contenders wish list so teams will be calling him about the guys who have been productive up to the last hour of the deadline and even beyond. Finally, he needs to work some magic to find a spot for Frazier and Melky. I have a feeling someone will take Melky after the waiver period but only provide salary relief. Perform well over the next month and he will have set himself up with a job now and into the future. Perform poorly and he is looking at a lifetime of assistant jobs. 100% agree Are the Nats interested in Robertson? I heard the RedSawx might be looking at Frazier. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
good dolphin wrote: Now he needs another great draft in Mid June. I think you mean he finally needs a great draft...
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: good dolphin wrote: Now he needs another great draft in Mid June. I think you mean he finally needs a great draft...I think you need to look at the general opinion of third party reviewers of last year's work. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
2016 is still too early to call. 2014 and 2015 look like shit though...top 10 picks..that's the bounty of tanking. that's where you have to add your Kris Bryants, your Kyle, I mean Ian Happs.... |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
good dolphin wrote: Caller Bob wrote: good dolphin wrote: Now he needs another great draft in Mid June. I think you mean he finally needs a great draft...I think you need to look at the general opinion of third party reviewers of last year's work. Such as? I remember seeing B-pluses for the 2016 draft--that's good, not great. |
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| Author: | America [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Collins defensive improvements are a bigger deal than his offensive struggles. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
312player wrote: No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. "You" also drafted Kyle Schwarber who might be a lot worse than both of the guys you listed.
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Mon May 22, 2017 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Frank Coztansa wrote: 312player wrote: No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. "You" also drafted Kyle Schwarber who might be a lot worse than both of the guys you listed.Kyle Schwarber could retire today citing his sucking and the pick would still be great. His WS performance was worth it. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
312player wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. It's a bit early to write off Fulmer. He's not doing that bad in AAA. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Schwarber had a 950 OPS in A ball the year after he was drafted. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Great comeback. What's the average age in this league? |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: 312player wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. It's a bit early to write off Fulmer. He's not doing that bad in AAA. As a Bears I know all about bad drafts. This is the Stockholm syndrome of defending a draft class....our top ten pick isn't doing THAT bad.... |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Great comeback. What's the average age in this league? About that age. But you know you have a gem when they destroy the league...not "tread water with an OPS just over 800". |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Collins looks like a better than average defensive catcher now. even if he hits .220 there's plenty of value. that Fulmer pick though. BAD. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Schwarber had a 950 OPS in A ball the year after he was drafted. What's he hitting now? |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: 312player wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. It's a bit early to write off Fulmer. He's not doing that bad in AAA. As a Bears I know all about bad drafts. This is the Stockholm syndrome of defending a draft class....our top ten pick isn't doing THAT bad.... Because baseball and football are such similar sports... |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Schwarber had a 950 OPS in A ball the year after he was drafted. What's he hitting now? About C.J. Edwards weight...so that doesn't bode well for Collins projections in MLB if he can't even pace Schwarbers #'s in the minors. Hopefully he becomes the best defensive catcher in MLB history. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: About C.J. Edwards weight...so that doesn't bode well for Collins projections in MLB if he can't even pace Schwarbers #'s in the minors. Hopefully he becomes the best defensive catcher in MLB history. Because Schwarber is not hitting it means Collins also will not. Got it. I will bet that he's a better defender than Schwarber already. So there is at least that going for him. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Let's put it like this....Schwarber is probably the worst Cubs 1st round draft pick of the Theo era(so far, or maybe Almora, we shall see..). Collins might be the best.(since 2012). Where does that put you? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Jim Abbott was a better defender than Schwarber will ever be. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon May 22, 2017 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Jim Abbott was a better defender than Schwarber will ever be. No doubt. He was also a better starting pitcher than Rodon will ever be, as well. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 22, 2017 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Caller Bob wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Jim Abbott was a better defender than Schwarber will ever be. No doubt. He was also a better starting pitcher than Rodon will ever be, as well. Other than already having a lower career ERA, spot on assessment. Your White Sox obsession is noted though. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon May 22, 2017 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Caller Bob wrote: 312player wrote: Zack Collins isn't hitting, Hanson might be solid though. If my GM treated top 10 draft positions like Hahn, I wouldn't want him tanking either... Collins has over an .800 OPS even without hitting. Worry about Babe Ruth hitting under .200. He should, it's A ball and he's 22. Schwarber had a 950 OPS in A ball the year after he was drafted. What's he hitting now? .224 |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon May 22, 2017 5:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
Frank Coztansa wrote: 312player wrote: No doubt, they draft Carson Fulmer and we draft Ian Happ. "You" also drafted Kyle Schwarber who might be a lot worse than both of the guys you listed.Cmon, the guy who just hit .450 in the world series and is a perennial 30-40 hr a year guy? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 22, 2017 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Biggest Month Of Hahn's Career |
You need to look up the definition of the word perennial. |
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