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Author:  Brick [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
You now see the major advantage of intentional tanking. Maybe Douchebag can finally understand why the similar records don't matter.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
This Yawn Anaconda kid better fuckin' pan out.
Author:  America [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
2018 will be the worst season record wise in my life.

There will be no trades to look forward to. We will be in that shitty situation where draft day is the biggest day of the year.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
good dolphin wrote:
2018 will be the worst season record wise in my life.

There will be no trades to look forward to. We will be in that shitty situation where draft day is the biggest day of the year.


Even worse, this extends Rozner's "The Plan" talk.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Kirkwood wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.

Loaded with young arms. 2018
Author:  America [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

For all the hoopla around the returns they got, the Sox still have Abreu and Avi who have been their two best players this year. Both will be on the team next season unless Hahn trades them in the next couple weeks (not out of the question).

Add Moncada and a bunch of pitchers to that, maybe a couple free agents work out better than expected and Delmonico/Polo make some waves and you have a team capable of getting hot in a weak division. Jimenez might be ready by June next year, with him the Sox would have a Moncada/Jimenez/Abreu/Avi middle order, which has the potential to the best since the Hurt/Maggs/Lee/Valentin years.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
good dolphin wrote:
2018 will be the worst season record wise in my life.
They were 63-99 a few years ago under Venchura.

I'll go out on a 5' diameter tree limb and say they do not lose 100 games next season.
Author:  America [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Kirkwood wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.

They have like 10 guys who are clearly on a major league track.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.
Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Once the pitching gets figured out the White Sox could be a perennial playoff team. I don't see it happening next season tho.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.


Damn, Peeps. No optimism at all?
Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.

Have faith!!!
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
America wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

For all the hoopla around the returns they got, the Sox still have Abreu and Avi who have been their two best players this year. Both will be on the team next season unless Hahn trades them in the next couple weeks (not out of the question).

Add Moncada and a bunch of pitchers to that, maybe a couple free agents work out better than expected and Delmonico/Polo make some waves and you have a team capable of getting hot in a weak division. Jimenez might be ready by June next year, with him the Sox would have a Moncada/Jimenez/Abreu/Avi middle order, which has the potential to the best since the Hurt/Maggs/Lee/Valentin years.

A lot of wishful thinking there. Very unlikely that all happens. Better prepare yourself for 2 seasons at minimum
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Peoria Matt wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.


Damn, Peeps. No optimism at all?


Nope.
Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
good dolphin wrote:
2018 will be the worst season record wise in my life.

There will be no trades to look forward to. We will be in that shitty situation where draft day is the biggest day of the year.

James Shields will be the most coveted pitcher in the market!

Draft day is always the biggest day of the year.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
America wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.

They have like 10 guys who are clearly on a major league track.

Is AAA a hitters park? Honest question, I don't know. Some of those pitchers' stat lines look terrible.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
America wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

For all the hoopla around the returns they got, the Sox still have Abreu and Avi who have been their two best players this year. Both will be on the team next season unless Hahn trades them in the next couple weeks (not out of the question).

Add Moncada and a bunch of pitchers to that, maybe a couple free agents work out better than expected and Delmonico/Polo make some waves and you have a team capable of getting hot in a weak division. Jimenez might be ready by June next year, with him the Sox would have a Moncada/Jimenez/Abreu/Avi middle order, which has the potential to the best since the Hurt/Maggs/Lee/Valentin years.

And Rodon turns into the top of the rotation guy he is destined to be
Author:  City of Fools [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
moreso than what the Sox are doing (which is important) the general direction of the rest of the division is just as important. That's the question. Who's rebuilding, who's not, who's competitive...
Author:  Pal [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

Not sure how you watch the last 6 days happen and think that bringing up Moncada means they aren't trying to lose. This team is complete dogshit right now. Next year they will be too. They will take flyers on free agent bargains. Have no offensive players ready to come up any time soon. Unless Giolito and Lopez come up next year and are great right away, its gonna be a slog next year.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Venchura?
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Jbi11s wrote:
Once the pitching gets figured out the White Sox could be a perennial playoff team. I don't see it happening next season tho.

I think Giolitto and Lopez will start the year in the MLB and Kopech will be up by all star break next year.
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Kirkwood wrote:
America wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.

They have like 10 guys who are clearly on a major league track.

Is AAA a hitters park? Honest question, I don't know. Some of those pitchers' stat lines look terrible.

I thought AA is where all the pitchers are and AAA is where all the hitters are.
Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.


Damn, Peeps. No optimism at all?


Nope.

TerryPasta
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Douchebag wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's gonna be bad.

And there won't be any success at the end of the rainbow.

The Plan™ will be a failure and nothing will change.


Damn, Peeps. No optimism at all?


Nope.

TerryPasta


SIGN JEFF KEPPINGER DAMMIT!
Author:  Kirkwood [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Cashman wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
America wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
RFDC wrote:
America wrote:
The White Sox are only tanking for one season. And right when it looked like they had completely gone all out for #1 overall pick they called up their consensus best prospect. They aren't really trying to lose.

How can you figure one season? It is at least 2 years

2022.

Need starting pitching.

They have like 10 guys who are clearly on a major league track.

Is AAA a hitters park? Honest question, I don't know. Some of those pitchers' stat lines look terrible.

I thought AA is where all the pitchers are and AAA is where all the hitters are.

It's both? Idk. America said they have 10 guys. I just checked AAA b/c Giolito like 2 years ago was supposed to be a monster.
Author:  ChiefWampum [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Quote:
Is AAA a hitters park? Honest question, I don't know. Some of those pitchers' stat lines look terrible.

Quote:
I thought AA is where all the pitchers are and AAA is where all the hitters are.

Quote:
It's both? Idk. America said they have 10 guys. I just checked AAA b/c Giolito like 2 years ago was supposed to be a monster.

The BB&T park in Charlotte is a bit of a hitter's park.

Many top pitching prospects in AA, though also many in AAA once they clearly have no use for AA anymore.
Author:  America [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To all the people who acted like all losing was the same
Rodon at MLB
Lopez, Giolito at AAA
Kopech, Adams at AA
Cease, Hansen, Dunning, Clarkin at A+

Those are the really good ones. There are many more after them across the system who may be something but haven't shown it yet or have some other flaw: Flores, Fulmer, Stephens, Guerrero, Burdi (TJ) etc. They've got a lot of them, and it's fine to have that filling out the system when there are NINE guys leading the way who all seem destined for the majors.

Some will flop, some will wind up relievers, a few are gonna get hurt (one already has)...but it's such a strong group you have to imagine they will find themselves at least a good rotation out of it.
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