Since Rick Hahn took over as GM, the Sox have never had a winning season. People trip over themselves, running to congratulate Hahn over the deals he has made, yet they have yet to have any positive results in the standings. They may never. They traded away a top 10 pitcher in Sale and a solid, if unspectacular starter in Quintana and the guys they got in return may never be as good as the guys they gave up. People thought Hahn had re-tooled the team and built it into a contender, with trades and free agent signings early in Hahn's tenure, only to see it woefully disappoint it's fans. Will the team finish in last place again and lose over 90 games yet again, or will they improve quicker than many predict?? I think 90 losses is a real likely possibility again in 2018.

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Go Cubs!!!!

kill yourself

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May you be required to live in David Kaplan’s butthole and use his belly button as a summer residence.

From a W-L perspective, you're not wrong, but you're taking some liberties here.

For most of his time as GM, how much control did Hahn even have? Lots of reports that Kenny Williams had a large influence and the overall direction was to try and win each season, despite the lack of depth/talent after the star talent on the roster.

Last year and this year, they are not interested in competing while they develop young talent. Is there a reason to expect the White Sox to avoid a losing season with the current strategy?

Another 90 loss season would be cool.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The guys they got for Quintana are already better. They haven't kept the Sox out of the World Series.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Doesn't Steve have a quote saying Eloy won't be traded?

Anyways, who cares if the Sox lose 90 games this year if they don't have the future on the MLB team yet.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Clearly, an irrational statement.

At least he put Sox and not 'Sux' in the title.

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Really? Do you think Quintana helped or hurt the Cubs?

Let's put it this way, I'm VERY happy he's on your team. Whatever the Sox got back for him is just a bonus.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Well, well, well, look what the Klan dragged in...

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He has to be pretty disappointed that no one really cared about this.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

They were 5 back when he arrived and he was their best pitcher the last 2 months of the year. You're going to miss him but I wouldn't expect for you to admit it.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Your memory is not wrong. I did not believe the Cubs would trade Eloy Jimenez in a deal for Quintana and believe it was a mistake to have done so. Yes, they have a surplus of outfielders, but Jimenez has rather special hitting abilities, with power as well as a good eye and ability to hit for average. As an outfielder, he is not real good. Think Jorge Soler. But I was obviously wrong and much like the trade for Chapman that cost the team Glyber Torres, I believe this was a mistake.

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viewtopic.php?f=32&t=105310&p=2668998&hilit=Eloy#p2668998

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Clearly I won that thread.

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It may help the Cubs to have aquired a cost controlled pitcher like Quintana, who's contract is so cheap that it helped them to have enough money to sign Darvish. But one day, and that day may not be so far away, fans will regret the deal was made, as they will regret that Glyber Torres was dealt for that steaming pile of crap named Aroldis Chapman.

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You can't knock the Chapman trade, we don't win a WS without him. I like Eloy and I think he will be good, nobody wanted him to go.

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Considering some of the brilliant Cub fan thoughts in that thread, that isn't a great feat:

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don