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The Tribe are sub-.500. The only other tean worth a shit in the division, the Twins, are circling the drain. The Sox are better than Detroit and KC.

Go for it. Get Eloy and Kopech up here and go for it.

Get Eloy and Kopech up here and go for it.

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better.

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough.

good dolphin wrote:

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

This needs to be saved.

I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take

good dolphin wrote:

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

This needs to be saved.

I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take

RFDC wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

This needs to be saved.

I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take

Javy Baez is a future MVP and Moncada has already surpassed him

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better.

I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough.

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. .

That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better.

He has not. Take a look at Moncada's first 81 games with the Sox.

Nas wrote:

I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough.

Have you not seen Moncada? Also, Dunning and Kopech are still in the minors.

Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9).

He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far.

IMU wrote:

Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9).

He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far.

He walks a lot of guys but doesn't give up a shit load of hits. Reduce walks and that drops dramatically. Control is an issue for most young pitchers.

Yeah, the peripheral stats say that Lopez is currently a bit of a scrub. Weak ass K ratio and an unsustainable batting average allowed of .213 (4th lowest in the majors). He’s owned in only 28% of yahoo leagues for a reason.

Nas wrote:

IMU wrote:

Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9).

He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far.

He walks a lot of guys but doesn't give up a shit load of hits. Reduce walks and that drops dramatically. Control is an issue for most young pitchers.

And strikeouts are an issue for most young hitters.

Both Moncada and Lopez do some things well and need to improve on things.

Let's say that they've been completely identical to one another in 2018.

Author:	America [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:41 am ]
Post subject:	Go for it
The Tribe are sub-.500. The only other tean worth a shit in the division, the Twins, are circling the drain. The Sox are better than Detroit and KC. Go for it. Get Eloy and Kopech up here and go for it.

Author:	Cashman [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
America wrote: The Tribe are sub-.500. The only other tean worth a shit in the division, the Twins, are circling the drain. The Sox are better than Detroit and KC. Go for it. Get Eloy and Kopech up here and go for it. I think once Super 2 is over, I would expect them up.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
America wrote: Get Eloy and Kopech up here and go for it. So these two guys are going to completely fix the shoddy defense and terrible bullpen, huh?

Author:	RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 8:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Team with the worst record in baseball is not 2 players away from the playoffs. Come on man.

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Author:	good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 8:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date. Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3.

Author:	billypootons [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
go for #1 pick? agree, keep on keepign on white sox

Author:	Regular Reader [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
This notion is almost as wrong headed as clowns in the media talking about Machado coming to the Sox in a trade, as the idiots on the morning show revived briefly again this morning.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:11 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date. Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3. Moncada looks like he can be an MVP

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date. Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3. Moncada looks like he can be an MVP He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:57 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date. Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3. Moncada looks like he can be an MVP He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better. Both have been great this year. Waves and waves of talent.

Author:	RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
good dolphin wrote: Moncada looks like he can be an MVP This needs to be saved. I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take

Author:	Caller Bob [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
My answer is "Go" and I will wager "For It".

Author:	IMU [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
You guys are arguing between a young, flawed but modestly successful pitcher and a young, flawed but modestly successful second baseman. And both have a lot of potential. In a forum full of pointless arguments, this seems increasingly pointless.

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Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:05 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough. Have you not seen Moncada? Also, Dunning and Kopech are still in the minors.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: Moncada looks like he can be an MVP This needs to be saved. I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take Javy Baez is a future MVP and Moncada has already surpassed him

Author:	RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:13 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
good dolphin wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: Moncada looks like he can be an MVP This needs to be saved. I look forward to Pittmike and JORR responding to this take Javy Baez is a future MVP and Moncada has already surpassed him Exactly why I look forward to JORR and Pittmikes take on this.

Author:	America [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough. They will lose out on #1 overall when Eloy and Kopech come up. If they pick #1 anyway it means most of their prospects have been failures, and the draft pick isn't making up for that.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: Nas wrote: Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. . That isn't true even if you are only including the players who have made it up to MLB by this date. Who has been better? Lopez looks like he can be a stud with a little better control. He's no worse than a #3. Moncada looks like he can be an MVP He shows flahes of what he may become but Lopez has been better. He has not. Take a look at Moncada's first 81 games with the Sox. I was talking about this season but even if we looked at their entire time here I still believe that Lopez has been better. I haven't seen every game or every AB but I haven't seen a guy who looks anything like an MVP. He's a .244 hitter with ONLY 14 homers in 90 games and 130 strikeouts. Moncada has definitely looked better the past month but he still can't hit a lefty to save his life. Lopez has given up 2 runs or fewer in all but 2 starts this year and has consistently looked like a top of the rotation guy ALL season.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Nas wrote: I'll take the #1 pick instead of trying to make a meaningless run at the playoffs. Besides Lopez is the best player from the Sale and Eaton trades. I like Lopez but that isn't good enough. Have you not seen Moncada? Also, Dunning and Kopech are still in the minors. I have and Lopez has been better this season. Also I didn't bring up guys who aren't in the majors. The reality is that the headliners of the trades haven't done much. If Moncada keeps his last month of work up that could change.

Author:	IMU [ Mon May 21, 2018 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9). He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
IMU wrote: Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9). He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far. He walks a lot of guys but doesn't give up a shit load of hits. Reduce walks and that drops dramatically. Control is an issue for most young pitchers.

Author:	IMU [ Mon May 21, 2018 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Nas wrote: IMU wrote: Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9). He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far. He walks a lot of guys but doesn't give up a shit load of hits. Reduce walks and that drops dramatically. Control is an issue for most young pitchers. And strikeouts are an issue for most young hitters. Both Moncada and Lopez do some things well and need to improve on things. Let's say that they've been completely identical to one another in 2018.

Author:	whiskey dick [ Mon May 21, 2018 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
Yeah, the peripheral stats say that Lopez is currently a bit of a scrub. Weak ass K ratio and an unsustainable batting average allowed of .213 (4th lowest in the majors). He’s owned in only 28% of yahoo leagues for a reason.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
whiskey dick wrote: Yeah, the peripheral stats say that Lopez is currently a bit of a scrub. Weak ass K ratio and an unsustainable batting average allowed of .213 (4th lowest in the majors). He’s owned in only 28% of yahoo leagues for a reason. People are idiots and he doesn't play for the Cubs or an East Coast writer's favorite team.

Author:	Nas [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
IMU wrote: Nas wrote: IMU wrote: Lopez also has a 4.81 FIP and 1.7 K/BB ratio (3.8 BB / 9). He has been fine. He hasn't been amazing. That ERA seems low considering his other statistics. He may have been 'lucky good' so far. He walks a lot of guys but doesn't give up a shit load of hits. Reduce walks and that drops dramatically. Control is an issue for most young pitchers. And strikeouts are an issue for most young hitters. Both Moncada and Lopez do some things well and need to improve on things. Let's say that they've been completely identical to one another in 2018. Fair enough

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Go for it
I’m not a baseball savant but I don’t think they can win the division even if they tried. I don’t care what the periphery numbers suggest. Lopez is/will be really good.