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Much better lately though. He'll be fine.
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Which happens first for the White Sox? America wrote: Calling it now. The only thing in his way is the Sox not being over .500 and Giolito being punished for it in awards balloting. That or Chris Sale gets a lifetime achievement Cy that he "wraps up" in late-July before running a 5.50 ERA the rest of the year. good dolphin wrote: Moncada looks like he can be an MVP |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Moncada could win an MVP someday. After he hits free agency and is playing for a decent team. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP Gordon Beckham. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP Gordon Beckham. Len Kasper said that about Russell, more than once. |
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| Author: | America [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Giolito is fucked up I dont know what happened |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP Gordon Beckham. Len Kasper said that about Russell, more than once. No, he said it about Joe Crede though. Which is actually a great comp for Russell. I remember that one, specifically. And Keyser Soze, the best Sox fan in the business, said that about Beckham. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
America wrote: Giolito is fucked up I dont know what happened Hasnt he always been fucked up? His stock as a prospect seemed to be always yo-yoing even before the Sox acquired him. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
America wrote: Giolito is fucked up I dont know what happened His control has been off, but he's had some nice flashes of potential. First full season after a major adjustment to his mechanics. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Giolito is young and has had some control issues. Much better lately though. He'll be fine. rogers park bryan wrote: And Keyser Soze, the best Sox fan in the business, said that about Beckham. He also called Adam Engel a "future hall of famer" and has no problem with the .234 avg, .697 OPS, and the shoddy defense that Tim Anderson brings to the table daily. Pretty safe to say his talent evaluation skills are marginal at best.
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| Author: | MartyD47 [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Giolito's fastball isn't major league caliber. He's rotation filler. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Moncada could be great. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP or Contrearas or Baez all of whom have been openly touted as MVP quality players by sabermatrician Len |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Moncada through 81 games with the White Sox .246 AVG, 14 HR, 16 2B, 3 3B, 37 RBI, 7 SB, 43 BB, 121 K, .344 OBP, .797 OPS, 116 OPS+, 2.4 WAR |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Is Moncada still eligible for ROY? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
good dolphin wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP or Contrearas or Baez all of whom have been openly touted as MVP quality players by sabermatrician Len When did he say that about Baez? That doesn't sound right. If its something like "if the season ended today he could be MVP" that's not saying he could win one in a full season. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
rogers park bryan wrote: good dolphin wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP or Contrearas or Baez all of whom have been openly touted as MVP quality players by sabermatrician Len When did he say that about Baez? That doesn't sound right. If its something like "if the season ended today he could be MVP" that's not saying he could win one in a full season. I’m pretty sure he said that about Baez like a month ago on the Score. Something along the lines of “Now that he’s putting everything together I think you’re seeing the MVP potential long talked about with him.” Could be wrong. Generally though if the question is did Len call _____ Cub player an MVP candidate the safe answer is yes. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
After Len said Kerry Wood's number should be retired, I pretty much put zero stock in his baseball thoughts. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: good dolphin wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Both are more likely to happen before 'Addy' wins an MVP or Contrearas or Baez all of whom have been openly touted as MVP quality players by sabermatrician Len When did he say that about Baez? That doesn't sound right. If its something like "if the season ended today he could be MVP" that's not saying he could win one in a full season. I’m pretty sure he said that about Baez like a month ago on the Score. Something along the lines of “Now that he’s putting everything together I think you’re seeing the MVP potential long talked about with him.” Could be wrong. Generally though if the question is did Len call _____ Cub player an MVP candidate the safe answer is yes. That's not predicting an MVP. That's saying years old projections about him being an MVP are not as crazy as they sounded when he was setting strike out records, but whatever. Len is definitely a homer and very big on POTENTIAL. |
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| Author: | newper [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Much better lately though. He'll be fine.
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue May 29, 2018 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Moncada has fallen off a cliff since his return from injury. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Maybe they will both happen this year. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Maybe they will both happen this year. Better chance of Addison Russell winning comeback player of the year. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
 Tough to win comeback player of the year when you aren't even on a roster.
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| Author: | Darkside [ Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Maybe they will both happen this year. .maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Darkside wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Maybe they will both happen this year. .maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt. 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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
| There's the dolphin we all know and love!
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moncada's MVP or Giolito's Cy Young |
Both will be all stars this year. I'd say that Giolitto could make Cy Young more likely than Moncada be the MVP. |
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