I have no idea what the future will bring.

They should have been a 75-80 win team this season. I have no idea what the future will bring.

Is the tank portion effectively done? The highly rated prospects have been assembled and now we just hope that enough of them matter? Is it fair to expect at least a .500 team next year?

They should have been a 75-80 win team this season. I have no idea what the future will bring.

I an optimistic view, I thought .500 before the season. I don't think that was realistic. I see that 75-80 win team in 2019.

It's pretty pathetic.

This team will never be good again. I don't blame you if you still had a small glimmer of hope back in April but God destroying the ligaments of all our prospects should have given you a hint. Eloy will probably break his neck tripping over first base next spring training.

Cease won't make it through the Sox minors without suffering a serious injury. Pretend he doesn't exist.

If there was ever a prospect to rush through a system it’s him. I want to say a relapse for Tommy Johns is about 7 years out. No point in wasting his bullets in the minors. I think next year will be year 4.

At least with Kopech there was the illusion he could be healthy.

Your posts? 100% agree.

Yes the tank is done.

Now we are back to being awful on accident rather than on purpose.

Sox were never tanking. They were putting a competitive team on the field year in and year out for their fans.

I can live with a failed Chris Sale trade more than I can tolerate the half-assed approach they had prior to that. Doesn't make it right...but signing / trading for big contracts on washed up stars or tier 2 players (overpaid) was just unbearable for me.

We'll just have to see what happens next year. I can say I'm more inclined to go see them / follow them now than I was 2 years ago with a roster of overpaid veterans.

Their plan is a debut in 2020/21. Nobody gets rushed. If they didnt rush Eloy or Kopech they aren't going to rush Cease.

They will have fewer wins in 2019 than they had this year. They are getting worse.

I can endure a lot as a sports fan, but the White Sox have broken me. Trading away Chris Sale for nothing is just too much. The return on a future HOF pitcher has been reduced to what we hope and pray we can get out of Luis Basabe. The Eaton trade is really not much better. I had no problems with dealing those guys, I was very publicly down on Sale, but they were still stars for the Sox. To get absolutely nothing for them is crazy.

And its beyond getting nothing for them really. Its almost more that what they got for them was so poorly developed and carelessly handled in such a prescribed way that took no interest in what approach each individual player called for that bothers me. The Sox by rule seem to never let anyone skip a level anymore. The Sox by rule keep guys for an entire season at Charlotte. The Sox come up with an innings number preseason and dont stop until a guy has hit that number, even if like Kopech his velocity is cratering for no discernible reason.

Moncada is a bust no matter where he goes, that was just obviously stupid scouting and a case of Dombrowski tricking Hahn by slapping a BMW badge on a Chevy. But Giolito, Lopez, Kopech and Dunning all had real potential to be stars. Now they're all either injured or on their last chance to play well enough to stay in MLB. They could have endured the Moncada problem if they had made the right decisions with the pitchers. But issues like player control, and perception, and what it would look like to other minor leaguers crept into their minds and clouded whatever trace amounts of baseball judgment they had to begin with. The end result is: they have no idea what they are doing from a development standpoint. Hahn did a decent enough job bringing in a lot of young talent to the minors but the way in which they have squandered very nearly ALL of that talent is...I cant even think about it.

I'm done.

Thank god for 2005.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly.

The bottom line with Hahn is that you are sending out a boy to do a man's job. He's not smarter than Dombrowski and not smarter than Epstein.