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Author:  tommy [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:07 pm ]
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So . . . is this team invisible outside Bridgeport?

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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big Hurt
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.
Author:  juschill [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:21 pm ]
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"I really thought Bryce Harper or Manny Machado would sign with the Sox. I don't know why they passed up on the offer." :(
Author:  tommy [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:21 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

93-94 were just about the best ever for a right-handed power hitter.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:37 pm ]
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tommy wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

93-94 were just about the best ever for a right-handed power hitter.


And although it was 2000(?), he was robbed by that damn juicer and the press' foolish infatuation with Billy Ball for the MVP.
Author:  tommy [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:40 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
tommy wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

93-94 were just about the best ever for a right-handed power hitter.


And although it was 2000(?), he was robbed by that damn juicer and the press' foolish infatuation with Billy Ball for the MVP.

Yep.
Author:  pittmike [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:42 pm ]
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That’s some shit there huh? Not sure how he researched but he likely got a list and then omitted him?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:45 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
That’s some shit there huh? Not sure how he researched but he likely got a list and then omitted him?


And Barry Bonds as well :lol:
Author:  Nas [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big Hurt
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:20 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed

I think PooHoles surpassed him didnt he?
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:23 pm ]
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Author:  Nas [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:32 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed

I think PooHoles surpassed him didnt he?


If I objectively looked at it I would have to acknowledge that Pujols was awfully close and could understand someone giving him the edge. Frank's level of dominance and consistency in the middle of the steroid era gives him the edge to me.

When I put my fan hat on and consider that Pujols played for the Cardinals and Frank was my 2nd favorite player for most of my childhood then Pujols isn't close
Author:  Rod [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:33 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed

I think PooHoles surpassed him didnt he?



I wouldn't say that. They're similar.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:03 pm ]
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Frank is the best right handed power hitter since integration. I think that's pretty fair to say.
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:11 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed

I think PooHoles surpassed him didnt he?

Get that nonsense outta here.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:18 pm ]
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Big Hurt was awesome. He will always be above Pujols.
Author:  Heisenberg [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:42 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:44 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Frank is the best right handed power hitter since integration. I think that's pretty fair to say.



I'm not sure about that. I think Henry Aaron and Manny have good cases.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:47 pm ]
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Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?
Author:  Powerhouse233 [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:52 pm ]
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Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Not even fucking close, as a complete hitter Frank Thomas shits on Sosa. Sammy hit a bunch of home runs in an era when everybody was hitting a lot of home runs. He was not the complete hitter that Frank Thomas, Manny Ramirez and Albert Pujols were in their prime. Although, Sosa's 2001 season ranks up there with some of their best seasons.
Author:  Powerhouse233 [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:54 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.


Agreed

I think PooHoles surpassed him didnt he?


Pujols first 10 seasons may have been even more dominant than Frank but Albert's decline afterwards has been as dramatic as any I've ever seen for a superstar of that stature. He went from being the best player in the world to being arguably the least valuable player in baseball considering his rapidly declining offense, his declining defense, his inability to run the bases and his massive contract.
Author:  Heisenberg [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:55 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Hitting home runs. 609>521
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:55 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Turning pink
Author:  Cashman [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:57 pm ]
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Heisenberg wrote:
Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.



Please deactivate the account above.
Author:  Heisenberg [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:59 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Playing the field. DH allowed Frank to pad his stats.
Author:  Powerhouse233 [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big Hurt
Heisenberg wrote:
Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Playing the field. DH allowed Frank to pad his stats.


He didn't pad shit. When Frank was at his best, in the 90's, he was playing first base. And he was the best hitter in Baseball.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:01 pm ]
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Heisenberg wrote:
Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Hitting home runs. 609>521


He couldn't hit 20 home runs before the Flintstone vitamins and 6 years later he's hitting 66.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Big Hurt
Powerhouse233 wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Playing the field. DH allowed Frank to pad his stats.


He didn't pad shit. When Frank was at his best, in the 90's, he was playing first base. And he was the best hitter in Baseball.



It doesn't matter anyway. DH is a position. If it didn't exist Frank would have played first base all the way through.
Author:  newper [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:04 pm ]
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Powerhouse233 wrote:
Pujols first 10 seasons may have been even more dominant than Frank but Albert's decline afterwards has been as dramatic as any I've ever seen for a superstar of that stature. He went from being the best player in the world to being arguably the least valuable player in baseball considering his rapidly declining offense, his declining defense, his inability to run the bases and his massive contract.

His contract isn't his fault... they knew they were buying some dead years in there, they just didn't realize how many they would be buying. But yeah, that is a fast decline in skill.
Author:  Heisenberg [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:08 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Powerhouse233 wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Nas wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Probably the best right handed power hitter MANY of us will see in our lifetimes. Some of his numbers from the 90s are Babe Ruth/video game like.

Sammy Sosa was better. Also overlooked, probably due to his time with the Sox.


Better at what?

Playing the field. DH allowed Frank to pad his stats.


He didn't pad shit. When Frank was at his best, in the 90's, he was playing first base. And he was the best hitter in Baseball.



It doesn't matter anyway. DH is a position. If it didn't exist Frank would have played first base all the way through.

Not a position that requires any fielding skills. One tool player.
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