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| Author: | IMU [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Tatis Jr seems universally rated as the higher prospect, and he plays a more valuable position where there is a much larger gap between the impact of stars and the impact of 'replacement bats.' Corner outfielders seem easier to sign on team friendly deals...star shortstops are few and far between, and very costly, as the White Sox are finding out. Could the White Sox have had the next Francisco Lindor, and essentially swapped him out for the next Matt Kemp? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
but but but Cubs fans don't care about the White Sox! |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:24 pm ] |
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tatis traded before eloy was acquired. blair walsh |
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
All that matters is Eloy > Quintana. I like the chances of that playing out in reality. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
This thread doesn't make any sense. The mistake was trading Tatis in the first place(Shields). The Padres were not even in buy mode when the Sox were shopping Quintana |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Acquiring Shields was a fireable offense, Trading Cease and Eloy for Q was dumb. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Frank Coztansa wrote: but but but Cubs fans don't care about the White Sox! I can't confirm or deny that, but baseball fans care about baseball. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. Yup.. he was also getting pounded in the NL west in the biggest pitcher park in mlb. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. It seems like they kidded themselves that that team was a contender. |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:42 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. Exactly. Plus they probably assumed he would end up sucking like just about every other position player to emerge from their farm system in the past two decades. |
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:44 pm ] |
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312player wrote: Acquiring Shields was a fireable offense I agree with this. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:08 pm ] |
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wdelaney72 wrote: 312player wrote: Acquiring Shields was a fireable offense I agree with this. And everyone knew this at the time. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:09 pm ] |
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Eloy will be a better hitter. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:09 pm ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: And everyone knew this at the time. many shitheads on Soxtalk claim everyone supported the deal at the time. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:17 pm ] |
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Holy crap that's a creepy bunch over there. Different kind of creepy than here but creepy nonetheless. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:25 pm ] |
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Lotta guys here liked the trade too @ the time. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:26 pm ] |
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312player wrote: Lotta guys here liked the trade too @ the time. Citations please.
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:28 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: 312player wrote: Lotta guys here liked the trade too @ the time. Citations please.Favre Fan wrote: And photos mailed to Joe Orr, please
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| Author: | juschill [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Hatchetman wrote: Regular Reader wrote: And everyone knew this at the time. many shitheads on Soxtalk claim everyone supported the deal at the time. I've seen them claiming that. They are insane. I don't recall anyone declaring victory. I remember friends, people at work all saying "WTF? You just got out from under the John Danks disaster." |
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| Author: | tommy [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. It seems like they kidded themselves that that team was a contender. And that Coop could straighten him out. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:45 pm ] |
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tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. It seems like they kidded themselves that that team was a contender. And that Coop could straighten him out. He sorta did straighten him out. Eventually. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Nardi wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. It seems like they kidded themselves that that team was a contender. And that Coop could straighten him out. He sorta did straighten him out. Eventually. Uhh no.. his era rose, smh. Sox fans lol |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Regular Reader wrote: wdelaney72 wrote: 312player wrote: Acquiring Shields was a fireable offense I agree with this. And everyone knew this at the time. Except Good Dolphin. |
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| Author: | vitoscotti [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
I'll miss marveling at "Big Game" James Shield's box score after getting regularly bombed. 16W-35L 5.31 ERA with Sox. Hahn will have this and Theo's blunders as learning tools. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
312player wrote: Nardi wrote: tommy wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Trading for Shields was dumb regardless. But I can't really blame the Sox for trading a 16 year old. Tatis will be the NL ROY next year and will play short in San Diego for the next eight years at least. The trade was so bizarre. The Sox were the ones taking on salary and a rapidly declining player. It seems like they kidded themselves that that team was a contender. And that Coop could straighten him out. He sorta did straighten him out. Eventually. Uhh no.. his era rose, smh. Sox fans lol 4.5 ERA last year. 5th starter material. Same as Chatwood's career ERA |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
Frank Coztansa wrote: 312player wrote: Lotta guys here liked the trade too @ the time. Citations please. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:23 am ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: 312player wrote: Lotta guys here liked the trade too @ the time. Citations please.Frank Coztansa wrote: The Sheilds deal is fine. They gave up nothing of real value to get him, and I don't care about Jerry's money.
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White Sox Chose Wrong Prospect in Eloy? |
conns7901 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: wdelaney72 wrote: 312player wrote: Acquiring Shields was a fireable offense I agree with this. And everyone knew this at the time. Except Good Dolphin. probably not My guess is I said we got him for nothing but it was a bad move after having just rid ourselves of the Danks contract |
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