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Well I Guess We Will Just Have To Settle For Harper Now
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Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:18 pm ]
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All in
Author:  SomeGuy [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:21 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
All in


Don't don't do this to yourself. I'm on your wavelength but I don't want to see your shattered body and brains splattered all over the sidewalk after you jump off the ledge.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:22 pm ]
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Welcome back dolphin.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:46 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
All in


Don't don't do this to yourself. I'm on your wavelength but I don't want to see your shattered body and brains splattered all over the sidewalk after you jump off the ledge.


Opinions vary
Author:  Panther pislA [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:53 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
All in

Fuck it.

Only way to save face.

Its only fucking money.

Do it. Whatever it takes.
Author:  juschill [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:12 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
All in


Don't don't do this to yourself. I'm on your wavelength but I don't want to see your shattered body and brains splattered all over the sidewalk after you jump off the ledge.


Opinions vary


I literally LOL’d for a couple minutes.

Well played.
Author:  Beardown [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:13 pm ]
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Oh I'm fucking sure that Rick made a call to Harper's agent. Hoping that he'd take a discount to come here cuz maybe he likes Chicago. And pich the idea that Harper's wife could hang with Chris Bryant's wife since they know each other :roll: While their husbands are banging hookers on the road. Take a shot in the dark with this angle.

Jerry is not gonna allow Rick to pay market value for the big guys.

It's little boys trying to get around playing with the big boys with gimmicks.

It's fucking funny, actually. Since I always knew it would be this way, I'm loving it. It's entertaining.

I knew it would be this way. Always knew it.
Author:  newper [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:34 am ]
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Hard to sign to a 10 year $330 million deal when you don't have confidence that your rebuild is going to work anyway. Somehow they've managed to get by with 8k people showing up per game in the gloomier months, so my guess is they just talk about how great Jon Jay is and try to break the 70 win mark.
Author:  donspiracy [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:49 am ]
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400 mil. over 10 years.

Do it!

TV revenue sharing will make sure the Sox investors and managment don't go broke.

The Sox might even mess around and make the playoffs in this bum ass division.
Author:  newper [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:54 am ]
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donspiracy wrote:
The Sox might even mess around and make the playoffs in this bum ass division.

If I were Cleveland, I would just rest my starters throughout the year... oh we play Detroit? Let's start #4, #5, and we'll just do some long relief. Division should not be close at all, IMHO.
Author:  billypootons [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:05 am ]
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they'll offer him a 8 year/250M deal... with year 9 being 45 and year 10 being 50M... but years 9 and 10 dont vest unless harper has 890 plate appearances at least 2 times in odd numbered years prior to year 6 of the contract starting..... so creative... good job rick on being so creative
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:58 am ]
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If Kenny is saying they couldn’t go over 300 , what makes you think Jerry will pony up the 330 Harper is going to get ?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:07 am ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
If Kenny is saying they couldn’t go over 300 , what makes you think Jerry will pony up the 330 Harper is going to get ?


Harper's white. That is worth an extra 80 mil.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:08 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
If Kenny is saying they couldn’t go over 300 , what makes you think Jerry will pony up the 330 Harper is going to get ?


Harper's white. That is worth an extra 80 mil.


I don't want any of those hot headed Latin ball players, they aren't real team guys. Too flashy.

Now, Allen Trammel, there was a lunch pail type of guy. Punches his time card, does his work and clocks out.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:20 am ]
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I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:31 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.


More people should think like this but guaranteed contracts make it impossible. An agent would never advise this. Too much security to miss out on.
Author:  juschill [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:34 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.


The agent would be on the floor in stitches upon hearing that declaration.

Detroit is going to leapfrog this clusterfuck of a rebuild.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:37 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.


Smart but I dont think Kenny and Rick could sell that.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:37 am ]
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pittmike wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.


More people should think like this but guaranteed contracts make it impossible. An agent would never advise this. Too much security to miss out on.

I agree , no fucking way would I give any player 10 year guaranteed deals but there’s also no way any agent would encourage their player to sign for 3/150. If that player got hurt and couldn’t play again that agent would never get another client .
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:44 am ]
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Security? Its one hundred and fifty million guaranteed dollars. That is second and third generational wealth without even taking into account endorsements and the money he has already made. Even if Harper is a total bust, he would still get another contract somewhere after those three years.

To me, Harper seems like the guy who is more serious about winning and his personal performance so he would be more likely to take a deal like that. Machado was all about the benjamins.

Hell, you could make it seven sweeter if you wanted to and say $75 million salary for 2019, and $37.5 million salary for 2020 & 2021. Throw a $40 million dollar player only option for 2022, no vesting required. Give him until Feb 1 to exercise the option that way he can test the free ajent waters and if there is nothing out there, he can bank even more cash and still get another bite at free agency.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:44 am ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I wouldn't even offer the ten years or $300mil.

Hahn should be on the phone with Harper's people right now to tell them that this year is a development year, but 2020 and 2021 are World Series or bust. Come to the Southside and help us win a Championship or two. Three years $150million, and we'll be at the table to discuss your next mega deal.


More people should think like this but guaranteed contracts make it impossible. An agent would never advise this. Too much security to miss out on.

I agree , no fucking way would I give any player 10 year guaranteed deals but there’s also no way any agent would encourage their player to sign for 3/150. If that player got hurt and couldn’t play again that agent would never get another client .


Go agree with your new buddy, pal. :lol:
Author:  312player [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:46 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Security? Its one hundred and fifty million guaranteed dollars. That is second and third generational wealth without even taking into account endorsements and the money he has already made. Even if Harper is a total bust, he would still get another contract somewhere after those three years.

To me, Harper seems like the guy who is more serious about winning and his personal performance so he would be more likely to take a deal like that. Machado was all about the benjamins.



Washington and Philly are very close, the Sox are a bottom feeder. Why would anybody who wants a ring go with Hahn?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:49 am ]
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Washington is so close that they have won just as many playoff series with Harper as the Sox have under Hahn. smfh.
Author:  juschill [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:52 am ]
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312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Security? Its one hundred and fifty million guaranteed dollars. That is second and third generational wealth without even taking into account endorsements and the money he has already made. Even if Harper is a total bust, he would still get another contract somewhere after those three years.

To me, Harper seems like the guy who is more serious about winning and his personal performance so he would be more likely to take a deal like that. Machado was all about the benjamins.



Washington and Philly are very close, the Sox are a bottom feeder. Why would anybody who wants a ring go with Hahn?


This.

If he’s concerned about winning then he doesn’t want to come to the White Sox, where number one prospects bust or get injured and are managed by cartoon characters who were tossed out like trash by the other team in town.

The Sox are the Pittsburgh Pirates. Welcome to the thirty year rebuild.
Author:  Rod [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:56 am ]
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Relax. The Sox are just waiting for Juan Soto to hit free agency.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 am ]
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Whoever signs Harper will live to regret it.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:40 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Whoever signs Harper will live to regret it.


Totally agree. Big name guy with some pretty uneven years to say the least. He's not coming into a team and being the piece that brings a championship. He's not that player, never has been. Machado was the guy, he's gone. Don't go throw yourself onto the funeral pyre with Harper.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:41 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Whoever signs Harper will live to regret it.

Is that some sort of threat ?
Author:  BigW72 [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:05 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Whoever signs Harper will live to regret it.


Totally agree. Big name guy with some pretty uneven years to say the least. He's not coming into a team and being the piece that brings a championship. He's not that player, never has been. Machado was the guy, he's gone. Don't go throw yourself onto the funeral pyre with Harper.


Agreed. It's much more difficult to find a star SS or 3B than a star outfielder. the Sox have Eloy for the OF. Manny was it.
It's over.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:13 am ]
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The tranny going on right now has it about right I guess? Machado gave the Sox all chances and they wouldn't guarantee 300M. Okay its done. Bernsie went on that the Sox better give up the no opt outs stance. I have to disagree there. If you want the 300M guarantee then I don't think you should get the 3-5 year player opt out. That is too much advantage to player and they should give a little for that.
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