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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:41 pm 
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He will be fired by the Cubs and the SOx need a new manager. Someone to take the young guys to the next level.

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It would be ultimate Cubs revenge on the Sox.


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Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

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he'll get a 4 year 12 mil offer... but if he wins 100+ games in year four the 5th year becomes guaranteed for 13 mil.... im readying my shocked sunglasses just in case this 5 yr 25 mil off is rejected by maddon


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Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

In my opinion, he's pretty good but it's time to move on. He and management clearly do not see eye to eye anymore.


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A 1-3 start seems to only make Cubs fans more obsessed with the Sox. Conns has started more Sox threads than I have over the past several weeks.

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If he wins a title with the Sox he will never pay for a drink again.

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We will go over this once again: JR refuses to negotiate contracts with agents for any staff other than players. He only negotiates with player agents because it is required of him but he has tried on multiple occasions to negotiate directly with the player. No manager with options negotiates his contract outside the presence of his agent (and why would he?). So, both the Bulls and White Sox are reduced to only hiring coaches who are desperately looking for their first job or have no other options in the industry.

Look at the list of Sox coaches since JR ownership began. He inherited and fired Larussa. Fregosi and Torborg had a little bit of experience but not many options. In the last 27 years with six new hires not a single one had MLB head coaching experience

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We will go over this once again: JR refuses to negotiate contracts with agents for any staff other than players. He only negotiates with player agents because it is required of him but he has tried on multiple occasions to negotiate directly with the player. No manager with options negotiates his contract outside the presence of his agent (and why would he?). So, both the Bulls and White Sox are reduced to only hiring coaches who are desperately looking for their first job or have no other options in the industry.

Look at the list of Sox coaches since JR ownership began. He inherited and fired Larussa. Fregosi and Torborg had a little bit of experience but not many options. In the last 27 years with six new hires not a single one had MLB head coaching experience


The current loser had experience as an MLB manager. He was discarded as trash (clearly they knew what they had) by the organization on the north and the Sox happily ate up their scraps.


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Why not. Maddon is worth a 3 year contract. After 3 years people are tired of his act.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

In my opinion, he's pretty good but it's time to move on. He and management clearly do not see eye to eye anymore.



how is that "clear"?

I never ONCE heard about any rifts. Just a buncha speculation by you guys here. Give examples and quit the "clearly" bullshit.

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whistler wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

In my opinion, he's pretty good but it's time to move on. He and management clearly do not see eye to eye anymore.



how is that "clear"?

I never ONCE heard about any rifts. Just a buncha speculation by you guys here. Give examples and quit the "clearly" bullshit.


They let him start the season as a lame duck manager. No other evidence is needed.

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whistler wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

In my opinion, he's pretty good but it's time to move on. He and management clearly do not see eye to eye anymore.



how is that "clear"?

I never ONCE heard about any rifts. Just a buncha speculation by you guys here. Give examples and quit the "clearly" bullshit.

First of all, SHUT THE FUCK UP

Secondly, there are so many examples already, if you dont know then you are going out of your way to not see it.

The latest is Jed Hoyer being disappointed in Schwarber not starting opening day.

I will accept your apology in the form of a new thread


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rogers park bryan wrote:
whistler wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?

In my opinion, he's pretty good but it's time to move on. He and management clearly do not see eye to eye anymore.



how is that "clear"?

I never ONCE heard about any rifts. Just a buncha speculation by you guys here. Give examples and quit the "clearly" bullshit.

First of all, SHUT THE FUCK UP

Secondly, there are so many examples already, if you dont know then you are going out of your way to not see it.

The latest is Jed Hoyer being disappointed in Schwarber not starting opening day.

I will accept your apology in the form of a new thread


Don't know how I missed this at the time, but too fucking funny. :lol: :lol:

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Yeah and unfortunately for us whistler took that advice over and over.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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2016 happened.


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Juiced wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.
Winning one title is a failure according to self proclaimed baseball expert IMU.


Poor Juiced. He must not remember that short of forfeiting the game, Maddon did literally everything he could to try and lose.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.


Maddon is not the problem. That is what I am saying.


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Juiced wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.


Maddon is not the problem. That is what I am saying.



Agreed. The manager doesn't matter. Play better.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Juiced wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.
Winning one title is a failure according to self proclaimed baseball expert IMU.


Poor Juiced. He must not remember that short of forfeiting the game, Maddon did literally everything he could to try and lose.


I remember what is was like to actually forfeit a game, 2003.

I also have the pleasure of remembering multiple playoff appearances and meaningful games since 2015.

How has life been for you Sox fans since 2005?


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Juiced wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.
Winning one title is a failure according to self proclaimed baseball expert IMU.


Poor Juiced. He must not remember that short of forfeiting the game, Maddon did literally everything he could to try and lose.


and I think its time to shoot back at Rozner that The Plan was neither some ground breaking brain child of a genius nor was it really the reason for that one lucky world series

They had an incredibly fortunate run of buying low on huge veteran producers like Arrietta, Strop and Rondon who just happened to get their rest and eat their vitamins in Chicago. Funny how Theo teams seem to find the perfect vitamins for his players over the last 20 years.

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Juiced wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.


Maddon is not the problem. That is what I am saying.
Why isn't he the problem? You seem to be saying it is because he won a title in 2016 that he isn't the problem.

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I also have the pleasure of remembering multiple playoff appearances and meaningful games since 2015.
I have the pleasure of remembering the two extra meaningful games that the Cubs lost last season 8)

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Joe Maddon might be a decent manager for the 2020-2022 White Sox. If he is available, they should look into it.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Juiced wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Isn't Joe the "BEST IN THE BUSINESS"? What happened to him since the Cubs hired him? Did Theo perform a lobotomy on him?


2016 happened.

I am glad you and other Cubs fans now have a complete understanding that winning one title is all that matters.


Maddon is not the problem. That is what I am saying.
Why isn't he the problem? You seem to be saying it is because he won a title in 2016 that he isn't the problem.


No, what I am saying is he gets the most of out his roster. What other manager would have had a better record then Maddon?

Maddon has a .588 W/L% with the Cubs. Ozzie had .524 with the White Sox. 2006 being his best year at .611 compared to Maddon's .655! in 2016.

Sparky Anderson has a .545 for his career and he is considered one of the best in the history of the game.


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Ozzie has a .750 career postseason W/L%

Maddon's? .478

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