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Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  2019 Offseason
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
kinda surprising
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
1 more season of Ricky until Omar gets the nod...
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:01 pm ]
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Cashman wrote:
1 more season of Ricky until Omar gets the nod...


Omar should be on the bench next season. Be an assistant and get some experience.
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
I think their plan was to keep him with the wave of "talented" Hispanic players. Sadly, I think we learned that there is only 1 in the minors, and hopefully he is playing for the big club to start the year.
Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:15 pm ]
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Stevenson is a loss. No other way to describe it. He was awesome with the A's hitters and also with the young Sox hitters. It is a stupid decision.
Author:  tommy [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:17 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Well, they just had the AL batting leader, the # 3 batter, and the leader in RBI....hmmm
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:40 pm ]
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tommy wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:

Well, they just had the AL batting leader, the # 3 batter, and the leader in RBI....hmmm

Iirc, they went hard to get those two guys. Seems to me the results have been positive. Maybe they lacked snitching and asslicking ability.
Author:  Antarctica [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:25 am ]
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Keeping Renteria kills a lot of optimism I was having.
Author:  RFDC [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:26 am ]
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Antarctica wrote:
Keeping Renteria kills a lot of optimism I was having.

Why? The situation remains the same no matter the manager
Author:  Cashman [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:33 am ]
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RFDC wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
Keeping Renteria kills a lot of optimism I was having.

Why? The situation remains the same no matter the manager


He has no idea how to manage a bullpen, and keeps playing guys that are bad at their jobs. I still did not understand why Collins was brought up the 1st time, if he wasn't gonna start at C or 1B.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
The Hawk wrote:
Stevenson is a loss. No other way to describe it. He was awesome with the A's hitters and also with the young Sox hitters. It is a stupid decision.
So awesome you don't even know his name despite it being posted right here in the thread :lol:

Maybe SteveRson really wasn't awesome and Moncada, Anderson, Eloy, Eaton, Abreu etc were going to hit regardless of who the hitting coach was.

SteveRson has been the hitting coach here since 2014. Let's see just how "awesome" the some of the Sox averages and OPS's are for some of these young players he has coached;

Conor Gillaspie .260 / .711
Avi Garcia .271 / .746
Trayce Thompson .206 / .640
Mike Olt .203 / .584
Micah Johnson .230 / .576
JB Shuck .229 / .604
Matt Davidson .225 / .726 ("The Bat" :lol: )
Charlie Tilson .246 / .600
Nicky Delmonico .227 / .709
Adam Engel .215 / .601
Daniel Palka .218 / .710
Cody Asche 62 plate appearances, 6 hits, 3 walks, GONE!
Jacob May 42 plate appearances, reached base 5 times, GONE!

So yeah, Hawk. A lot of shitty, awful numbers there. You would think that if SteveRson was such a great hitting coach, there would be a few guys here and there that actually did well once they got to the Sox from the minors. There is hardly anybody he developed. So, I guess its a good thing you aren't here for the sports talk.


:lol: :cry: :lol: Fucking christ. Some of these guys if I ever hear their names again it will be too soon.
Author:  The Hawk [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Stevenson is a loss. No other way to describe it. He was awesome with the A's hitters and also with the young Sox hitters. It is a stupid decision.
So awesome you don't even know his name despite it being posted right here in the thread :lol:

Maybe SteveRson really wasn't awesome and Moncada, Anderson, Eloy, Eaton, Abreu etc were going to hit regardless of who the hitting coach was.

SteveRson has been the hitting coach here since 2014. Let's see just how "awesome" the some of the Sox averages and OPS's are for some of these young players he has coached;

Conor Gillaspie .260 / .711
Avi Garcia .271 / .746
Trayce Thompson .206 / .640
Mike Olt .203 / .584
Micah Johnson .230 / .576
JB Shuck .229 / .604
Matt Davidson .225 / .726 ("The Bat" :lol: )
Charlie Tilson .246 / .600
Nicky Delmonico .227 / .709
Adam Engel .215 / .601
Daniel Palka .218 / .710
Cody Asche 62 plate appearances, 6 hits, 3 walks, GONE!
Jacob May 42 plate appearances, reached base 5 times, GONE!

So yeah, Hawk. A lot of shitty, awful numbers there. You would think that if SteveRson was such a great hitting coach, there would be a few guys here and there that actually did well once they got to the Sox from the minors. There is hardly anybody he developed. So, I guess its a good thing you aren't here for the sports talk.


:lol: :cry: :lol: Fucking christ. Some of these guys if I ever hear their names again it will be too soon.


My goodness, little one. Pardon me if I had a typo for goodness sake. Fact is that Steverson and I have talked several times in Arizona about a couple of kids that I coached who were in the A's farm system while he was the hitting instructor for the A's. He is well recognized in baseball as an excellent coach. But you wouldn't know that, being the weird dufus that you are.

YOu also wouldn't understand that hitting a major league pitch is considered by many as the single hardest things to do in all of sports. You noted a number of players who failed to hit when they reached the majors. Did you ever think in your puny brain that these guys just did not have the requisite hand/eye coordination to hit and drive a baseball against a 97 mph fastball a top notch slider or change-up?

I guess that I am just going to have you go the way of LTG in my eyes. All you do is post nonsense and insults. You just interject yourself into decent conversation and insult people. Go away, little Frankie.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
The Hawk wrote:
Fact is that Steverson and I have talked several times in Arizona about a couple of kids that I coached who were in the A's farm system while he was the hitting instructor for the A's.
Nobody cares.
Author:  Cheap Charlie [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Great. frank now trying to drive away another guy who knows WTF he is talking about.
Worst Sox fan ever.

Shoot yourself inna face. Please.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Kill Urself.
Author:  Cashman [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
There is a video on The Twitters, Kopech throwing 99mph to hitters.
Author:  Antarctica [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:15 pm ]
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Cashman wrote:
There is a video on The Twitters, Kopech throwing 99mph to hitters.

Optimism returns.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
the key for him is going to be control
Author:  Antarctica [ Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:36 pm ]
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I maintain there was a plan to get him pitching again this season but they binned it.
Author:  Cashman [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:03 am ]
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Antarctica wrote:
I maintain there was a plan to get him pitching again this season but they binned it.



There is no way, any sane GM would attempt that. If you wanna say, they sped up his recovery for next season, I might buy that.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:51 pm ]
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Author:  Antarctica [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:53 pm ]
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A small percentage of guys do come back stronger from the surgery.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:55 pm ]
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He doesn't need to be stronger. He needs to pinpoint his control.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:31 pm ]
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Antarctica wrote:
A small percentage of guys do come back stronger from the surgery.


something like 80% now return to equal or greater ability
Author:  Cashman [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:36 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
A small percentage of guys do come back stronger from the surgery.


something like 80% now return to equal or greater ability



I guess Burdi fell into the 20%?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Charlie Tilson outrighted to Charlotte
Author:  Antarctica [ Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Cashman wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
A small percentage of guys do come back stronger from the surgery.


something like 80% now return to equal or greater ability



I guess Burdi fell into the 20%?

Appears so.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Offseason
Mentality of ownership.
Author:  Cashman [ Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Mentality of ownership.




Yep, saw it this morning. Perpetual rebuild.
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