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Author:  Cashman [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:01 am ]
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Offers Jose a 1yr 17.8M deal has 10 days to accept, and has a pick attached if signed by another team.


Further proof, they are not serious about spending money. Explains why they didn't wanna lock him up last season. I would of offered him a 3yr deal.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:15 am ]
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They have to make the qualifying offer. I'm going to say he ends up signing a two or three year deal with the Sox.

Author:  Cashman [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 am ]
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I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.

Author:  312player [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:48 am ]
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I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:50 am ]
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Cashman wrote:
I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.



We'll see. I highly doubt that Reinsdorf is going to let his favorite player since Harold Baines walk. If they were going to do that they should have traded him last July. I think Hahn was specifically told he could not trade Abreu.

Author:  Bababooey [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:54 am ]
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312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.

Author:  312player [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:58 am ]
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Bababooey wrote:
312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.



I'd target Odorizzi and Wheeler, bring up Madrigal and Robert.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:33 am ]
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312player wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.



I'd target Odorizzi and Wheeler, bring up Madrigal and Robert.


No issue with this.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:24 am ]
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312player wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.



I'd target Odorizzi and Wheeler, bring up Madrigal and Robert.


need a LHS

I'd like to see where the market for Bumgarner goes.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:39 am ]
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Cashman wrote:
I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.
JOrr is correct. Teams have to make a qualifying offer. Its not a final offer from the Sox by any means. Its only a qualifying offer in that if the player says no and then signs elsewhere, then the team gets compensatory draft pick. The risk is that if its a medicore or injured player and the team is just banking on that draft pick, the player can easily sign the 1 year tender and collect for the following year.

I.E. The Cubs will not get such a pick if/when Cole Hamels signs elsewhere because they did not make him a qualifying offer. Same with the Yankees and Gregorious.

Author:  Cashman [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:42 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Cashman wrote:
I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.
JOrr is correct. Teams have to make a qualifying offer. Its not a final offer from the Sox by any means. Its only a qualifying offer in that if the player says no and then signs elsewhere, then the team gets compensatory draft pick. The risk is that if its a medicore or injured player and the team is just banking on that draft pick, the player can easily sign the 1 year tender and collect for the following year.

I.E. The Cubs will not get such a pick if/when Cole Hamels signs elsewhere because they did not make him a qualifying offer. Same with the Yankees and Gregorious.



I am not disagreeing with the QO, my gripe is with not offering him a contract during the season. I don't think they have any intention in keeping him, they want the pick.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:43 am ]
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I think they absolutely want to keep him and am not worried about them not getting a deal done during the season.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:55 am ]
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Cashman wrote:
I don't think they have any intention in keeping him, they want the pick.


There were a lot of teams who could have used a right-handed power bat for the stretch drive. I'm sure the Sox could have gotten something more valuable than that pick if the idea were to let him go.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:59 am ]
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I agree with JORR. I cant see anyway that he is not back with the sox at this point

Author:  Bababooey [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:07 am ]
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Abreu is not going anywhere. Market not that good for a guy of his age and position. Cubs smart not to offer Hamels QO. He would have taken that deal and run to the bank. Nobody will come close to giving him that much a year.

Author:  The Hawk [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:21 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
312player wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.



I'd target Odorizzi and Wheeler, bring up Madrigal and Robert.


need a LHS

I'd like to see where the market for Bumgarner goes.


I think that he'd be perfect for this team.

Author:  juschill [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:16 pm ]
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The Hawk wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
312player wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
312player wrote:
I'd give Abreu a 3 year 40 million deal. He's earned it and he'll hit for 2.5-3 more years.


Lot of money on a post 30 first baseman. This team.needs at least 2 quality starters and a couple bullpen arms just to hope to be competitive.



I'd target Odorizzi and Wheeler, bring up Madrigal and Robert.


need a LHS

I'd like to see where the market for Bumgarner goes.


I think that he'd be perfect for this team.


Bumgarner ain’t coming here. Be happy he’s not. There’s a lot of miles on that arm.

Author:  312player [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:35 pm ]
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Yeah.. Madbum been pitching a majority of his games in SF, Petco and Dodger stadium ( all pitcher parks) he'd get smoked in the AL and in a hitters park now that he's lost some velocity.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:21 pm ]
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Abreu will be back surprising no one.

I wonder however if the Sox shock the world and convince Carl Edwards Jr. to join the team!

:D

Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:11 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.



We'll see. I highly doubt that Reinsdorf is going to let his favorite player since Harold Baines walk. If they were going to do that they should have traded him last July. I think Hahn was specifically told he could not trade Abreu.


Mercedes should make the team next season as a catcher/DH/1B. He's not being mentioned much by the reporters and analysts but this guy can flat out hit and hit with power. Collins is not a catcher and has to hit to make the team as a 1B/DH.

Author:  The Hawk [ Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:38 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
I disagree, get ready for the Zack Collins show.



We'll see. I highly doubt that Reinsdorf is going to let his favorite player since Harold Baines walk. If they were going to do that they should have traded him last July. I think Hahn was specifically told he could not trade Abreu.


Yeah. Abreu will be resigned unless he gets really greedy which I doubt. He's coming off of a terrific year, is still in his prime and can flat out hit.

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