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Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:51 am ]
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My brother was at the game last night, and reported another instance of the wave sweeping around the stadium. It also happened a few weeks back at the last game I attended. I know it's a stupid thing to be irritated with, especially given Sox fans' history as a whole, but my anger is never well-founded or rational. But, honestly, what the hell is going on with this crap?

Author:  Mustang Rob [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:57 am ]
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This shit only happens when you have enough people to fill the stadium all the way around. :evil:
Last game I was at some dickhead threw back the home run ball and his section cheered.
All the other sections cheered when security took him out of the stadium.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:07 am ]
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I don't think you will have to worry about the wave for much longer. September tickets will be very easy to get this year.

Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:09 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I don't think you will have to worry about the wave for much longer. September tickets will be very easy to get this year.


That's what I'm banking on, as I'm going to need an entire section to sprawl my barely-alive body out onto after I've treated Halfway to St. Patrick's Day as an Irish wake.

Author:  OakBrookJoe [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:28 am ]
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I noticed this too. Its easy to spot the fans that joined the bandwagon after the world series.

Author:  sportsfan [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:32 am ]
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Mustang Rob wrote:
All the other sections cheered when security took him out of the stadium.


Why does security care if you throw a ball back on the field? If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.

In other sports, it's expected that you will return the ball. Why is baseball different?

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:37 am ]
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Unlike other sports, the actual value of a used baseball is probably less than 25 cents.

Author:  sportsfan [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:38 am ]
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But that's not a good reason for being thrown out for returning it to the field of play.

Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:44 am ]
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You are an assclown if you throw anything onto the field, for any reason. If it's a ball, give it to a kid. You are also an assclown if you cheer after a ball being thrown back.

Author:  Mustang Rob [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:45 am ]
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NSJ wrote:
Mustang Rob wrote:
All the other sections cheered when security took him out of the stadium.


Why does security care if you throw a ball back on the field? If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.

In other sports, it's expected that you will return the ball. Why is baseball different?


Hmm?
For some reason, stadium security at virtually all stadiums strongly discourage the practice of throwing objects onto the playing surface.
So much so, that it's actually printed on the tickets.
May have something to do with those ball & seat cushion giveaway disasters when the fans decided that the officiating did not meet their approval, and spontaneously decided to give their swag items back to the team.

Extendidng your logic for a moment, should the fans be allowed to throw back the player who comes flying into their seats? :wink:

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:33 pm ]
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NSJ wrote:
If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.


50 mph? are you at a T-Ball game NSJ?

btw...good dolphin, it's starting up again!

The 2007 Little League World Series, held in South Williamsport, Pennsylvania, will be held August 17 through August 26. Eight teams from the United States and eight from throughout the world will compete to decide the winner of the 61st installment of the Little League World Series. It will be televised on ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPN on ABC.
:P

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:52 pm ]
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You are an assclown if you throw anything onto the field, for any reason. If it's a ball, give it to a kid. You are also an assclown if you cheer after a ball being thrown back.


at any and all stadiums, including the "shrine" that is wrigley

Author:  sportsfan [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:13 pm ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
NSJ wrote:
If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.


50 mph? are you at a T-Ball game NSJ?


By the time a home run ball has travelled 300+ feet its velocity is on the decline. Unimpeded, it will fall ultimately fall to the ground.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:18 pm ]
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projectile formula would disagree with you, but i'm not here to argue physics.... :lol:

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:29 pm ]
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NSJ wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
NSJ wrote:
If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.


50 mph? are you at a T-Ball game NSJ?


By the time a home run ball has travelled 300+ feet its velocity is on the decline. Unimpeded, it will fall ultimately fall to the ground.


Wouldn't a falling baseball be accelerating at the rate of 9.8 m/s squared?

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:31 pm ]
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Puddingheaded Loon wrote:
NSJ wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
NSJ wrote:
If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.


50 mph? are you at a T-Ball game NSJ?


By the time a home run ball has travelled 300+ feet its velocity is on the decline. Unimpeded, it will fall ultimately fall to the ground.


Wouldn't a falling baseball be accelerating at the rate of 9.8 m/s squared?


Most likely not, as the force applied to it by the motion of a swinging bat will likely exceed the terminal velocity of the ball. It would be decelerating towards it's terminal velocity, as determined as an application of air resistance (drag) aginst the gravity.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:10 pm ]
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jesus. i thought mr wizard went for a dirtnap :p

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:19 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Puddingheaded Loon wrote:
NSJ wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
NSJ wrote:
If you've got to catch a hard ball coming at you at 50mph to avoid getting hit in the head, you should be able to throw it back at the general direction it came from.


50 mph? are you at a T-Ball game NSJ?


By the time a home run ball has travelled 300+ feet its velocity is on the decline. Unimpeded, it will fall ultimately fall to the ground.


Wouldn't a falling baseball be accelerating at the rate of 9.8 m/s squared?


Most likely not, as the force applied to it by the motion of a swinging bat will likely exceed the terminal velocity of the ball. It would be decelerating towards it's terminal velocity, as determined as an application of air resistance (drag) aginst the gravity.


Good point.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:04 pm ]
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if a baseball takes 3 seconds to go 400 feet it is travelling at approximately 90mph.

Author:  sportsfan [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:36 pm ]
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Coach Crapowski wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
if a baseball takes 3 seconds to go 400 feet it is travelling at approximately 90mph.


But that's only the horizontal velocity. It diminishes significantly as it approaches the stands.


That's my point. Ultimately, it's velocity will only be vertical as it reaches the stands. There's a difference with trying to catch a ball bare handed on the pitcher's mound vs. 375 feet away in the bleachers.

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:53 pm ]
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3 seconds to go 400 feet it is travelling at approximately 90mph


D=rt is one of my favorite equations.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:02 pm ]
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alright damnit. if it was a line drive it would be travelling at 90mph. think McGwire's record breaking shot. so it has a 5 degree angle....

at lunch tomorrow i begin to calculate the velocity of an average home run to left field and we will know the truth via the math!

Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:43 pm ]
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NERDS!

Author:  hawkeye [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:23 pm ]
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Stinkfinger The Crow wrote:
NERDS!


Here's an uninteresting fact. My uncle invented Nerds and many of the other popular Willy Wonka candies in the 80's and early 90's. It was great being a kid and having huge boxes of candy shipped to me for free. "We're happy for ya". That's all I have to add...

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:24 pm ]
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All this physics talk makes me want to drink Beast again.

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:33 pm ]
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Fun Dip & laffy taffy are awesome.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:45 am ]
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hawkeye wrote:
Stinkfinger The Crow wrote:
NERDS!


Here's an uninteresting fact. My uncle invented Nerds and many of the other popular Willy Wonka candies in the 80's and early 90's. It was great being a kid and having huge boxes of candy shipped to me for free. "We're happy for ya". That's all I have to add...


oh my god!!!!
can you get me a crate of "cry-baby" sour candy and gum?

:D

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:13 am ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
alright damnit. if it was a line drive it would be travelling at 90mph. think McGwire's record breaking shot. so it has a 5 degree angle....

at lunch tomorrow i begin to calculate the velocity of an average home run to left field and we will know the truth via the math!


As a person who had a difficult time figuring out how to shoot a monkey falling off a tree with a bannana gun in Physics 101, I would think that the calculation is very simple and has already been performed.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:20 am ]
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it is very simple.

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