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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Playoff Rotation |
I don't think this should be a reward for season long production. It should be a snapshot of who is going best right now combined with analytical analysis of optimal matches. My rotation would be as follows: Giolito- he's rolling right now and pitched great in his previous playoff appearance. He is the guy out of anyone on the staff who could give you seven and hand it off to Kimbrel and Hendriks. I think he has decent numbers against the astros and he's the healthiest pitcher to turn around and pitch a game 5. Rodon- if he isn't fatigued, he's been their best pitcher this year. Let him give you what he has and have Kopech at the ready for a two inning effort Cease (lynn if down 0-2)- probably the most consistent pitcher this season and been really good lately. He pitches particularly well at home, so you have to hold him for a home start. Lynn- if down 0-2, I want him going in game 3 as a firewall. If not, he is great both at home and on long rest. This provides both and I think you can bank on a strong performance from him in a critical game |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Your rotation makes sense but I'm guessing LaRussa goes with Lynn in the first game. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
I dont see any way in the world that Lynn is not game 1 starter. Dude is a warrior and you want him securing game 1. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
RFDC wrote: I dont see any way in the world that Lynn is not game 1 starter. Dude is a warrior and you want him securing game 1. Except that he's obviously not 100%. I don't want to be reading a story about how tough he is to gut out a bad back and a gimpy knee after the Sox are down 0-1. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: I dont see any way in the world that Lynn is not game 1 starter. Dude is a warrior and you want him securing game 1. Except that he's obviously not 100%. I don't want to be reading a story about how tough he is to gut out a bad back and a gimpy knee after the Sox are down 0-1. If he is too injured to pitch game 1, then he probably shouldn't be pitching at all in a series. I would want him going game 1 if he is even close to ready. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Being a fat guy is all fun & games til you develop a bad back and knee issues. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: I dont see any way in the world that Lynn is not game 1 starter. Dude is a warrior and you want him securing game 1. Except that he's obviously not 100%. I don't want to be reading a story about how tough he is to gut out a bad back and a gimpy knee after the Sox are down 0-1. If he is too injured to pitch game 1, then he probably shouldn't be pitching at all in a series. I would want him going game 1 if he is even close to ready. The thing is, a guy like that will never tell you he can't take the ball. And then it's 4-0 in the third inning and after the game LaRussa is mumbling excuses like "At this time of the year a lot of guys are beat up. Lance gave us all he had." He isn't too hurt too pitch. But I think a bunch of extra time will help him. He may not pitch again in the regular season. So that's something. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 I'm not. Giolito puts them in the best chance to win Game 1. Rodon has been better than Lynn as well, as long as he is healthy. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
good dolphin wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 I'm not. Giolito puts them in the best chance to win Game 1. Rodon has been better than Lynn as well, as long as he is healthy. I would be more worried about Rodon's health than Lynn. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 I'm not. Giolito puts them in the best chance to win Game 1. Rodon has been better than Lynn as well, as long as he is healthy. I would be more worried about Rodon's health than Lynn. Rodon's stuff was awful last outing. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 I'm not. Giolito puts them in the best chance to win Game 1. Rodon has been better than Lynn as well, as long as he is healthy. I would be more worried about Rodon's health than Lynn. I agree. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Nardi wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: RFDC wrote: good dolphin wrote: He isn't their best pitcher right now. He hasn't fared well in houston. He is fantastic on longer rest and terrible on short rest (not that short rest will come into play). I want Lynn optimized and Game 1 is not optimal for him. Game 3 may be just as critical as Game 1. Lynn and Giolito give you the best chance of winning games 1 and 2. You really shouldn't be planning your rotation on the possibility of being down 0-2 I'm not. Giolito puts them in the best chance to win Game 1. Rodon has been better than Lynn as well, as long as he is healthy. I would be more worried about Rodon's health than Lynn. Rodon's stuff was awful last outing. Was it though? Wasn't that the game where he got a lot of weak contact and they kept dropping the ball? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Lynn has been there before. He is a beast. He goes game 1 unless health says he misses the DS Giolito game 2 Cease pitches at home in game 3 Rodon/Lopez with Kopech ready to come in at a moment's notice for game 4. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Giolito- is pitching well and I'm not sure if he's mentally tough enough to be reliable if the Sox are down 0-1 Lynn- Has been the best pitcher most of the year and he's the guy that you want having the ball on the road in any must win game. Cease- you want the kid to be comfortable. Pitching at home is the best spot for him. Rodon- More rest to be right |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Giolito Lynn Rodon if healthy Cease If Rodon isn't healthy, Cease goes game 3 and then Lopez/Keuchel/bullpen in game 4 |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Giolito Lynn Rodon if healthy Cease If Rodon isn't healthy, Cease goes game 3 and then Lopez/Keuchel/bullpen in game 4 That's how I'd do it. It will probably be that but with Lynn and Giolito switched. Game 4 is a home game, right? |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
I'd go lynn, giolito,rodon, cease.. keuchel wouldn't make the roster. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Giolito Lynn Rodon if healthy Cease If Rodon isn't healthy, Cease goes game 3 and then Lopez/Keuchel/bullpen in game 4 That's how I'd do it. It will probably be that but with Lynn and Giolito switched. Game 4 is a home game, right? Yeah I'm pretty sure it is. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Rodon was screwed by the defense last time out. He still struck out six in three innings. He has the best stuff on the staff. If you can get 100 pitches out of him it would be great. He was the only one to look good at Houston this year. Giolito has had success there in the past though. They can't go down 0-2. And I think they have to win the first game or it will spiral. They play better as front-runners. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Giolito Lynn Rodon if healthy Cease If Rodon isn't healthy, Cease goes game 3 and then Lopez/Keuchel/bullpen in game 4 That's how I'd do it. It will probably be that but with Lynn and Giolito switched. Game 4 is a home game, right? Yeah I'm pretty sure it is. 2@HOU 2@CWS 1@HOU No scheduled off days for the ALDS, and obviously Houston will not have any rain out |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Giolito Lynn Rodon if healthy Cease If Rodon isn't healthy, Cease goes game 3 and then Lopez/Keuchel/bullpen in game 4 That's how I'd do it. It will probably be that but with Lynn and Giolito switched. Game 4 is a home game, right? No. Game 4 will be a road game to open the ALCS. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
312player wrote: I'd go lynn, giolito,rodon, cease.. keuchel wouldn't make the roster. after reading Larussa's latest assessment, I'm not sure Rodon will even be available for the playoffs. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
good dolphin wrote: 312player wrote: I'd go lynn, giolito,rodon, cease.. keuchel wouldn't make the roster. after reading Larussa's latest assessment, I'm not sure Rodon will even be available for the playoffs. There are rumors that Boras is insisting he not pitch. |
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Assuming all healthy... My rotation. 1. Gio 2. Rodon 3. Lynn. Tony's likely rotation 1. Lynn 2. Rodon 3. Gio. If the wheels fall off Cease is the guy that has to be ready. He's earned a starting spot, but I just don't see Tony starting Cease in games 1-3. They're going to need him...one of the 3 starters is likely to struggle. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Risky. If Rodon is not healthy that is one thing. But if he is healthy and goes out and has great games in the playoffs, his contract could easily go up by 10 or 20 million every start he takes in October. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: 312player wrote: I'd go lynn, giolito,rodon, cease.. keuchel wouldn't make the roster. after reading Larussa's latest assessment, I'm not sure Rodon will even be available for the playoffs. There are rumors that Boras is insisting he not pitch. Really? That is BS |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: 312player wrote: I'd go lynn, giolito,rodon, cease.. keuchel wouldn't make the roster. after reading Larussa's latest assessment, I'm not sure Rodon will even be available for the playoffs. There are rumors that Boras is insisting he not pitch. If he has to sit for the playoffs how much is he worth? He had to be babied all season to make it to September. If they were in an actual playoff race he would have been a liability. Lopez was such a luxury and a pleasant surprise. He bailed them out repeatedly throughout the second half. |
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Playoff Rotation |
I don't believe that for a second. The only way Boras would have Rodon not pitch is if there was something wrong with him. |
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