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Author:  Beardown [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:35 pm ]
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Yes, Uribe got in the way but it didn't effect the play. The guy from first was heading to 2nd anyway. That forced Pegon to move to 3rd. Pegon went to 3rd after the interference because he had too. Pie was on 3rd and didn't move.

Maybe that's the god damn rule. Once interference happens the play is dead. Then why did the Umps let the play continue?

Fuck. Don't get me wrong. We suck anyway.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:41 pm ]
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The Cub had three fuck ups on the bases on one play and come out smelling like rose, unbelievable.
Then Pagan fucks up on the sacrifice fly the very next play. The Cubs still blow. They should have scored at least 3 runs and only get one. They will not catch the Brewer.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:42 pm ]
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It was obstruction. The play was dead. What's hard to get here? Leave it to the Cubs to get a real rundown on the next play.

What was Ozzie ejected for? Just being out there forfuckingever? He didn't seem to get too mad. He was just arguing for like ten minutes.
Author:  Beardown [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:47 pm ]
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I get it. But why did the umps let the play continue if it was dead? In fact after he called obstruction the same stupid ump called him out at 2nd. Why? He just called obstruction.

Look, the call was right but the umps are stupid. And the Cubs got lucky for being dumb runners.
Author:  KDdidit [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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Obstruction doesn't result in a dead ball if the they're not trying to make a play on the runner. Strangely enough the same thing happened to me in softball a few weeks ago.

I'll just look it up
Quote:
7.06
(b) If no play is being made on the obstructed runner, the play shall proceed until no further action is possible. The umpire shall then call “Time” and impose such penalties, if any, as in his judgment will nullify the act of obstruction.
Rule 7.06(b) Comment: Under 7.06(b) when the ball is not dead on obstruction and an obstructed runner advances beyond the base which, in the umpire’s judgment, he would have been awarded because of being obstructed, he does so at his own peril and may be tagged out. This is a judgment call.

And good lord did Hawk sound like a total bitch after that play. I'm a big fan of homer announcers, but that was embarrassing.
Author:  RodeoVann [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:23 pm ]
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Hawk annoyed me because he didnt even have the ump who called it right. Hawk has to be a jewel to work with. :roll:
Author:  Bud Dude [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:46 pm ]
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I was the only one in my area at the game that new what the call was, and guess what, Im a dumbass Cub fan. The ump raised his hand and pointed at Uribe as soon as they made contact. Once the int occurs no runners can be out but if a runner scores that run counts, that's why the play continued.
Author:  Beardown [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:06 pm ]
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Ok. Makes sense. Yeah, let the play develop in case the Cubs score. They shouldn't be punished for the Sox interference. Thanks for the info. The ump still called Pagon out after calling the interference. But that was just a mistake cuz he was caught up in the action.

I knew in the end they got it right.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:46 pm ]
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I knew in the end they got it right.


But they didn't get it right. Pagan should have been ruled out if the rule listed above is correct. He proceeded to the next base (third) "at his own peril" and was tagged out running back to second. Time should have then been called immediately after Pagan was tagged, however since there were two runners still in the middle of the basepaths, "further action" could have been taken in the play. Therefore, the final result should have been two outs, runner on first.
Author:  Beardown [ Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:56 pm ]
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Yeah. He did. But after the interference call was made. So every thing he does to his detrement doesn't count. So in other words he had a free pass. If he did advance to 3rd that would have been allowed because the Cubs couldn't be punished once the interference call was made.

Look, he was stupid and did what he did without knowing the rule. But he got bailed out and it was correct. The rule is the rule.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:58 am ]
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the way it was handled was BS. the umps got it wrong. at the very least, pie should have been out. everyboyd is talking about pagan, but pie was the dumbfuck that 1 didnt score on the original hit, and 2 ended up getting caught in a rundown.


all of this is moot however as this fucking "offense" couldnt hit a barn door with a bull's ass
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:03 am ]
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The third base umpire saw the interference and raised his hand moving toward the field right in front of Pie. That caused Pie to slow down and turn around. They showed this camera angle a few times. That was what caused Pie to get caught up and Pagan to have nowhere to go. Pie did not slow down until the umpire at third made that call. The umpires messed up the call of the play but ultimately made the correct clean up of their mistake.

But, I'll concede to Sox fans if it is important to them. The Cubs should have only won 2-0 in their sweep of the White Sox.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:37 am ]
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Yeah. He did. But after the interference call was made. So every thing he does to his detrement doesn't count. So in other words he had a free pass. If he did advance to 3rd that would have been allowed because the Cubs couldn't be punished once the interference call was made.

Look, he was stupid and did what he did without knowing the rule. But he got bailed out and it was correct. The rule is the rule.


Obviously this is all a moot point as it pertains to the outcome of the game because we would have lost either way. However, I still believe that the outcome of the play was decided wrongly.

Unless my interpretation of the rule is completely wrong and I am not understanding something, the way I read it is like this:

I will openly admit that my first opinion was completely wrong, as the ball should have been ruled dead the instant a play was made on Pagan due to the umpire raising his hand at the time of contact with Uribe. However, Pagan is only entitled second base, not third. If anything, the runner on first should be out due to the play being made on him prior to the ball being thrown to Uribe to tag out Pagan. So, the final outcome should have been runners on second and third with one out.

Again, this is merely my interpretation of the rule as I saw it on Comcast (which I now understand failed to show a lot of the play).
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:37 am ]
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can we play the past month under protest on account of a shitty offense?
Author:  M_C [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:56 pm ]
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a 3 game series with the Atlanta Braves would be a nice cure. Too bad interleague play is done.
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