Any tea. that has the amount of injuries the Sox have had over the last two seasons is going to have some issues. I'm of the belief the Sox do not win more than 84 games last year with Renteria at the helm.

TLR was delt another shitty hand but he's played it really poorly so far this season. Another loss or two and I don't think the Sox will have much choice but to fire him. The team has been lifeless and embarrassing and while that's not all the managers fault, somebody is going to have to take the fall if this continues.

To say I'm thoroughly disgusted and disappointed would be an understatement.

You can’t fire your Shortstop and First Baseman though

This isn’t about Renteria though. TLR was never the right choice. Being better than what they had isn’t good enough. My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

Tony LaRussa is the Joe Biden of managers.

Time to go

This isn’t about Renteria though. TLR was never the right choice. Being better than what they had isn’t good enough. My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

At what point does Rick Hahn say fuck all this and get himself on the market? If David Stearns leaves Milwaukee this off-season to become the President of the Mets (Alderson wants to retire), the Brewers can do much worse than give Hahn a look as their GM.

I’m sure AJ Hinch would have this team firing on all cylinders no doubt .

Tony LaBiden.

Hahn oversaw one of the worst decades in Sox history. He squandered top 10 draft picks during those years. His only saving grace was signing arbitration level players to long term contracts that proved to be so far below market that teams were willing to give up a haul of prospects for his low priced veterans, two of whom helped their teams to world series wins. I wouldn't miss him for a second if he left, other than that JR would reinstall KW into the position.

Everyone knew the needs this off season: RF, 2b, SP. There were low priced, quality players all around those positions. He filled them with the typical Sox 35 year old veteran on his last legs.

The entire league knew SP was going to be important because of the condensed schedule and spring training. He rolled with busters.

How many times were we told post Machado debacle that the money would be spent when the time was right? This window was open and they still shied from going over the soft cap.

This season has been a testament to what JR is.

He got 77 wins last year out of a Tigers team many had winning only 50ish games. He wouldn't fix everything but he's obviously the guy they SHOULD have hired instead of Tony LaBiden.

I wouldn’t want that cheating piece of shit anywhere near my young team. Get back to me in September and we’ll see where the Tigers record compared to what the White Sox is

Kuechel gave up two runs yesterday on two booted ground outs. He's been brutalized by awful defense. The defense and baserunning have been awful. They stopped hitting, but when given leads the bullpen has squandered them.

Basically everything that could go wrong has, but they are not out of anything.

Of course not. The division is terrible. But errors are part of the game. You have to be able to pitch over them. I just think at this point Keuchel is a negative all the way around.

And yeah, the hitting vs. RHP is a glaring weakness. If they can be good enough to look like they can win the division, they probably need to make a deal for a lefthanded bat. I don't know who that is, who will be out there. But if a bat like Harper is available, you have to give up what it takes within reason to get him. If that means Crochet and Vaughn +, you probably have to do it. This is the window. You can't be falling in love with guys and trying to limp into winning now while planning on being even better later.

I don't know much about Kuechel's clubhouse attitude. He's not talented enough anymore to pitch over multiple defensive miscues in an inning.

I don't know much about Kuechel's clubhouse attitude. He's not talented enough anymore to pitch over multiple defensive miscues in an inning.

I don't know much about Kuechel's clubhouse attitude. He's not talented enough anymore to pitch over multiple defensive miscues in an inning.