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Author:  Warren Newson [ Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  White Sox Off-Season
Looks like Cease finished in second place in the Cy Young voting, but a distant second to Verlander. He had a great year, and the Sox will likely need another great year out of him if they're going to do anything next year.

It figures to be a quiet off-season for them from a free agent standpoint, but it would be nice to have a thread to post about whatever happens.
Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Warren Newson wrote:
Looks like Cease finished in second place in the Cy Young voting, but a distant second to Verlander. He had a great year, and the Sox will likely need another great year out of him if they're going to do anything next year.

It figures to be a quiet off-season for them from a free agent standpoint, but it would be nice to have a thread to post about whatever happens.


Three years ago, I was foolish enough to think that the WHite Sox were going to be solid contenders for the next 6-8 years. These hopes are probably completely dashed for good for me. I am sick of this organization under Reinsdorf. WIthout major moves the existing team has no chance of winning anything and it is all on Reinsdorf. The White Sox are now the KC Royals or Oakland A's except they have decent player development and scouting people. We should have known this was going to happen with the hire of LaRussa which in the end was a last gasp effort by Reinny to hope against hope that the drunken SOT could by some miracle win him a championship before he is carried off of his moldy old chairman's chair and goes to the landfill for the remains of greedy old billionaires. :cry: :cry:
Author:  Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries [ Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:26 pm ]
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The Hawk wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Looks like Cease finished in second place in the Cy Young voting, but a distant second to Verlander. He had a great year, and the Sox will likely need another great year out of him if they're going to do anything next year.

It figures to be a quiet off-season for them from a free agent standpoint, but it would be nice to have a thread to post about whatever happens.

I am sick of this organization under Reinsdorf.

But they just got the winter off to a great start by signing Mets lefty legend Nate Fisher, or something like that.

Ugh. I mean, I guess they could possibly use him, but I am preparing to be underwhelmed.
Author:  Cashman [ Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Fuck this team. I am really close to being done. They are going to waste a lot of good years of some players.
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:08 am ]
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M&H seem to think Heyward would be a good fit, lol.
Author:  The Hawk [ Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:09 pm ]
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Once again, Reinny has refused to repay the loyalty of White Sox fans who showed up in 2022 despite a piss poor team on the field. The team has talent but needs a major re-work of it along with some money being spent. They won't get it with Reinny. IF Hahn had the balls he'd re-sign but instead he will settle for the scraps off of Reinny's table. Fuck Reinny.
Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Cashman wrote:
Fuck this team. I am really close to being done. They are going to waste a lot of good years of some players.

The only one that really looks to be a tragic waste is Dylan Cease. Other than that it's collection of some really good players but not studs. Eloy is appearing to be a bust. Robert....maybe.

My biggest problem is their complete disregard for defense. You cannot mash your way to a championship with constantly giving runs away.
Author:  pittmike [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Far from me to apologize for JR but I need to see another year. Want to see many of these guys play not under LaRussa or Renteria.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
BigW72 wrote:
Eloy is appearing to be a bust. Robert....maybe.

My biggest problem is their complete disregard for defense. You cannot mash your way to a championship with constantly giving runs away.

I don't think Eloy is a bust - once they finally move him to permanent DH he'll be an asset. He played 1/2 a season and finished with an .858 OPS, 16 hr and 54 RBI. Don't put him in the outfield and you're fixing 2 problems.
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:05 pm ]
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A week after being moved to permanent DH Eloy trips over something in the warmup circle and tears his ACL
Author:  BigW72 [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:04 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
A week after being moved to permanent DH Eloy trips over something in the warmup circle and tears his ACL

THIS....he seems to hurt himself even without playing defense.
Author:  Warren Newson [ Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:46 pm ]
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https://twitter.com/lamondpope/status/1 ... -_m54sAAAA

A good start. I can't stand Adam Engel.
Author:  Warren Newson [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.


That kid hit his face overnight.
Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.

He’s still good at defense, no? Even though he can’t hit anymore? Kenny prefers his vets thoroughly washed before they sign.
Author:  Warren Newson [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Nas wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.


That kid hit his face overnight.


Yeah he did. The article says he dislocated his shoulder celebrating a homerun during the 2020 NLCS and that he was never really the same again. If that's true, that's a hell of a way to derail your career.
Author:  Warren Newson [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.

He’s still good at defense, no? Even though he can’t hit anymore? Kenny prefers his vets thoroughly washed before they sign.


He supposedly is still good at defense, but I think his inability to hit the broad side of a barn with a shovel puts him into Kenny territory.
Author:  Cashman [ Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Warren Newson wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.

He’s still good at defense, no? Even though he can’t hit anymore? Kenny prefers his vets thoroughly washed before they sign.


He supposedly is still good at defense, but I think his inability to hit the broad side of a barn with a shovel puts him into Kenny territory.


Adam Dunn 2.0. Atleast he can play all OF positions and 1B.
Author:  Bagels [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
define "play "
Author:  Rod [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
If Bellinger were any good, the Dodgers would be keeping him. The Sox need to stop rebuilding off the scrap heaps of other teams. It just doesn't work.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
The guy is only 27. What the hell happened to him? Is it injury, is he a head-case or did the league just figure out how to pitch to him?
Author:  Nas [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
The guy is only 27. What the hell happened to him? Is it injury, is he a head-case or did the league just figure out how to pitch to him?


Part of it has to be mental.
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Nas wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
The guy is only 27. What the hell happened to him? Is it injury, is he a head-case or did the league just figure out how to pitch to him?


Part of it has to be mental.

According to reports, he hasn't been the same since hurting his shoulder celebrating
Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
BigW72 wrote:
Eloy is appearing to be a bust. Robert....maybe.

My biggest problem is their complete disregard for defense. You cannot mash your way to a championship with constantly giving runs away.

I don't think Eloy is a bust - once they finally move him to permanent DH he'll be an asset. He played 1/2 a season and finished with an .858 OPS, 16 hr and 54 RBI. Don't put him in the outfield and you're fixing 2 problems.


They absolutely need to put him in as the DH and leave him there. The guy could legitimately lead the league in power numbers.This also means, though, that they also need to trade for a left handed hitting power hitting outfielder. Its just totally frustrating to watch how mismanaged the 40 man roster is for this club and it has been mismanaged for pretty much three years in a row.
Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Warren Newson wrote:
Nas wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
It looks like the Dodgers are non-tendering Cody Bellinger:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/ ... inger.html

Any interest? Seems like a White Sox bargain basement type of signing.


That kid hit his face overnight.


Yeah he did. The article says he dislocated his shoulder celebrating a homerun during the 2020 NLCS and that he was never really the same again. If that's true, that's a hell of a way to derail your career.



I remember watching that game and the celebration of basically hitting each other with forearm shivers. You could tell that he was hurt and talking to a guy who was a Dodger fan and telling him how stupid that celebration was.
Author:  The Hawk [ Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
The guy is only 27. What the hell happened to him? Is it injury, is he a head-case or did the league just figure out how to pitch to him?


Bellinger always had a kind of odd swing with a pronounced upper cut. Pitchers learned how to attack these types of swings with going after the hitter with breaking pitches high in the zone as well as inside heat. Then he started making adjustments in his swing and basically got LOST as a hitter. He's been lost for a long time and because his original swing was so unique I don't know if he is fixable as a hitter.
Author:  pittmike [ Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Mike Clevenger come on down.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Meatpants hates the signing because Clevinger broke COVID protocols two years ago. If he was so concerned with COVID how come he chooses to live his life as an obese 400 pound man?
Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
I'm not excited about it either. You hope he covered.
Author:  Rod [ Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season
Caller Bob wrote:
Meatpants hates the signing because Clevinger broke COVID protocols two years ago. If he was so concerned with COVID how come he chooses to live his life as an obese 400 pound man?



Nobody ever thinks about that or has the balls to say it. If you're walking around obese you're more susecptible to COVID, thus you are endangering others. Suddenly it isn't about the collective when it's their behavior that's being questioned.
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