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Jermaine
Wha?!? Who makes up this nucleus? Konerko, Garland, Buerhle, and you? I'm not so sure I'm really content with that group, sir.

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Jermaine
Wha?!? Who makes up this nucleus? Konerko, Garland, Buerhle, and you? I'm not so sure I'm really content with that group, sir.

Next year you have hitting 3,4,5,6,7 as follows:

Thome
Konerko
Dye
Pierzinski
Crede

That is a solid nucleus. I imagine we will see Vizquel hit 2nd with Pods/Owens leading off. Richar will hit 9th and possibly Sweeney 8th. You can win with that group.

Clean up the bullpen mess and this team can compete.

I think Fields will be in left. I think even if Crede is doing well and the Sox are contending the Sox might deal him during the season next year. Not to give up but to get another ready guy to help and then move Fields back to 3rd.

A. To give him more time to fully recover from BACK SURGERY

2. To find out if the final answer at 3rd is Fields before next year's deadline

NotInTheBiz wrote:

A. To give him more time to fully recover from BACK SURGERY

2. To find out if the final answer at 3rd is Fields before next year's deadline

I love it when someone gets a tone of righteous indignation in their response after another poster calls him on saying something completely ridiculous.

So, Bear, you're saying that LF and 3rd are roughly the same physically. And I'm ridiculous?

Thome
Konerko
Dye
Pierzinski
Crede

Is that the slowest 3-7 in the history of the game? what happened to Ozzie grinder ball, or Ozzie ball? I think AJ might be the fastest of that crew and Paulie and Thome might have a race for slowest MLB player

Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:29 pm ]
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Jermaine Dye, as read on ESPN.com: The 33-year-old Dye, one of the top offensive players available at the deadline, said he was glad to still be with Chicago. "We have a good nucleus here,'' said Dye, who can become a free agent after the season. ..... Wha?!? Who makes up this nucleus? Konerko, Garland, Buerhle, and you? I'm not so sure I'm really content with that group, sir.

Author:	Stinkfinger The Crow [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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I'm fine with 3/4ths of it. JD=too creaky, too breaky.

Author:	Beardown [ Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:44 pm ]
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I'm actually glad to hear him say that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Players just say shit to the media to give them quotes. Dye's one of those guys. He just wants to go home after the game. The Sox need to sign him now. With that comment it seems like he wants to be here. So I think something will get done. He's indicated he likes it here in the past.

Author:	BD [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:17 am ]
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I don't have an issue with Dye staying as long as it's a short-term deal (maybe 2 years with an option if he hits certain numbers). My only problem is that I think keeping his contract (and Contreras') means that Garland is unlikely to be resigned.

Author:	OakBrookJoe [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:38 am ]
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I think Dye is getting to the point where if they signed him for two or three years he would need to be part time outfielder/ part time DH. I don't know what you do with Thome then.

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Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:35 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Jermaine Wha?!? Who makes up this nucleus? Konerko, Garland, Buerhle, and you? I'm not so sure I'm really content with that group, sir. Next year you have hitting 3,4,5,6,7 as follows: Thome Konerko Dye Pierzinski Crede That is a solid nucleus. I imagine we will see Vizquel hit 2nd with Pods/Owens leading off. Richar will hit 9th and possibly Sweeney 8th. You can win with that group. Clean up the bullpen mess and this team can compete.

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:47 am ]
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Hey, when does Thome's contract expire? If it's after next year then you can replace him with Dye as the full time DH and find your right fielder then. We'll have to sign Dye to at least a 2 year deal. Maybe 3. I wouldn't mind him playing DH for the last 2 years of a 3 year deal. He might be able to gut out one more year in right but no more then that.

Author:	Stinkfinger The Crow [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:48 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Jermaine Wha?!? Who makes up this nucleus? Konerko, Garland, Buerhle, and you? I'm not so sure I'm really content with that group, sir. Next year you have hitting 3,4,5,6,7 as follows: Thome Konerko Dye Pierzinski Crede That is a solid nucleus. I imagine we will see Vizquel hit 2nd with Pods/Owens leading off. Richar will hit 9th and possibly Sweeney 8th. You can win with that group. Clean up the bullpen mess and this team can compete. There seems to be a noticeable lack of one Josh Fields in your lineup, gd. If you have Crede coming back, then why not have Fields in left?

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:50 am ]
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I think Fields will be in left. I think even if Crede is doing well and the Sox are contending the Sox might deal him during the season next year. Not to give up but to get another ready guy to help and then move Fields back to 3rd.

Author:	WestmontMike [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:55 am ]
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Beardown wrote: I think Fields will be in left. I think even if Crede is doing well and the Sox are contending the Sox might deal him during the season next year. Not to give up but to get another ready guy to help and then move Fields back to 3rd. Exactly what I was thinking. I'd much rather see Fields at third than left. I like Crede, but I don't see his back issues going away and I'd rather move forward with Fields than play the waiting game with a back injury. Start Crede at 3rd to start the season and then deal him for help.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:17 am ]
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Fields will start the year at AAA while Crede is showcased. While I like what he has done, there are certianly parts of his game he can work on in the minors on both offense and defense. He would not look at it as a demotion, as he will be back up by August. I just have a problem attempting to make a guy learn a position when he knows full well he will not be there in less than a year. I could see a scenario where his fielding will lead to a decline in hitting and a stikeout rate that is astronomical.

Author:	NotInTheBiz [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:28 am ]
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How about Crede in left then? Ozzie has blasted Pods for being too fragile, so I think he gone. I'm sure Crede can play left at least as well as Pods and it's a much less demanding position physically than 3rd.

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:31 am ]
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You're kidding right? If Crede's here why the hell would you put a top 2 defensive 3rd baseman in left and have the lessor Fields at 3rd?

Author:	NotInTheBiz [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:56 am ]
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A. To give him more time to fully recover from BACK SURGERY 2. To find out if the final answer at 3rd is Fields before next year's deadline

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:38 pm ]
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Plus Ozzie ball leads you to beleive that it was an original, unique style that never existed before. Every style of baseball has existed since 1920. I hate the term Ozzie ball. Ozzie ball was Guillen whipping his head to see the 2005 Sox hit 200 balls over the fence. "Look at that one go Harold. Weeee!!! We take dat one." That and great pitching.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:34 pm ]
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i dont believe ozzie or kenny have ever used the term "ozzieball" unless they were responding to a media's type question.

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Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:03 pm ]
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I don't know if having him in left helps the back any more then being at 3rd. More long sprints. You'll still have to dive on occasion in left.

Author:	Brick [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:04 pm ]
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Stinkfinger The Crow wrote: NotInTheBiz wrote: A. To give him more time to fully recover from BACK SURGERY 2. To find out if the final answer at 3rd is Fields before next year's deadline I love it when someone gets a tone of righteous indignation in their response after another poster calls him on saying something completely ridiculous. I sense a righteous indignation subtext.

Author:	NotInTheBiz [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:10 pm ]
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So, Bear, you're saying that LF and 3rd are roughly the same physically. And I'm ridiculous?

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:18 pm ]
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I'm saying it only takes one play to wreck the back. Could happen in left just as easy as 3rd. He could put him self in unneccesary jeopordy becasue he'll take a wrong route and be forced to dive. He'll do that because it's a foreighn position. Crede has been playing 3rd for at least 6 straight years. Maybe his whole life. I don't think he ever played the outfield. Fields has some time in left in the minors. Plus Crede's a gold glove candidate. Why wouldn't you want to utilize that? Beleive me. It they're both on the team Fields is playing left.

Author:	BearBoy [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:21 pm ]
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Thome Konerko Dye Pierzinski Crede Is that the slowest 3-7 in the history of the game? what happened to Ozzie grinder ball, or Ozzie ball? I think AJ might be the fastest of that crew and Paulie and Thome might have a race for slowest MLB player

Author:	NotInTheBiz [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm ]
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I was only spitballing. We don't know what condition Crede will be in once he returns. [/quote]

Author:	Beardown [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:30 pm ]
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Ok. I'll take that as an "I was wrong." Carry on. Kidding Biz.

Author:	Spinnin' Bucket [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:31 pm ]
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Quote: Thome Konerko Dye Pierzinski Crede Is that the slowest 3-7 in the history of the game? what happened to Ozzie grinder ball, or Ozzie ball? I think AJ might be the fastest of that crew and Paulie and Thome might have a race for slowest MLB player In order, I'd say: Dye Thome Crede Konerko Pierzynski The Sox have the best softball team in the world, hands down.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:33 pm ]
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BearBoy wrote: Thome Konerko Dye Pierzinski Crede Is that the slowest 3-7 in the history of the game? what happened to Ozzie grinder ball, or Ozzie ball? I think AJ might be the fastest of that crew and Paulie and Thome might have a race for slowest MLB player Ozzieball never really existed. You have the second best launching pad in the league. You use that as a strength.