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Beardown wrote:

There is no reason to pitch Jose. I'm even looking at it from the Sox perspective. Even if he has a couple good starts I still wouldn't be confident in him next season. My opinion wouldn't change. All he'll be next year is a year older.

Even if he pitches great it still won't improve his trade value. Teams won't forget this 10 game stretch. Nobody will want him even with a couple good starts.

For the benefit of the club you need to keep Floyd in there.

Why is this even a question ?

"The way [Floyd] pitched, we should give him another start," manager Ozzie Guillen said.

Why are they trying to appease Contreras ?

Guillen said he would decide Tuesday whether the Sox would opt for a six-man rotation and settle the status of Jose Contreras, who warmed up in the bullpen Sunday.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Gavin Floyd's performance
Amazing what throwing stikes can do. 99 pitches, 61 strikes. 6 innings of shutout ball. i know the tigers are struggling but this had to be an encouraging performance for him.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:59 pm ]
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Hopefully this gets him a few more starts. Putting Jose out there is sort of like forefiting. Put him on the DL or in the pen and see what you have with Floyd.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:06 pm ]
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a great start today. 10 times better than anything contreras has done in the last 8 weeks. start me or trade me my ass.

Author:	Beardown [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:07 pm ]
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Wow. 3 consecutive threads about Sox rookies. With positive comments. THERE'S HOPE!!!!

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:09 pm ]
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I've been clamoring for the kids for a while. i want to see Floyd the rest of the year - he needs to prove if he should be considered for the rotation next year. same with Richar, Owens and Fields. not a rookie, but Pods is actually showing he deserves to be on this club next year. Bring him back cheap and let Pods/Owens go 1-2 and run like crazy.

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Author:	BD [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:29 pm ]
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He should be a starter for the rest of the season, and Ozzie will hopefully not use a 6 man rotation like he has been talking about. I don't understand the need to keep Contreras happy. He should be in a mop-up role in the bullpen for the rest of the season, or shut down. Re-evaluate in the off-season.

Author:	Beardown [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:34 pm ]
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There is no reason to pitch Jose. I'm even looking at it from the Sox perspective. Even if he has a couple good starts I still wouldn't be confident in him next season. My opinion wouldn't change. All he'll be next year is a year older. Even if he pitches great it still won't improve his trade value. Teams won't forget this 10 game stretch. Nobody will want him even with a couple good starts. For the benefit of the club you need to keep Floyd in there.

Author:	BD [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:35 pm ]
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Beardown wrote: There is no reason to pitch Jose. I'm even looking at it from the Sox perspective. Even if he has a couple good starts I still wouldn't be confident in him next season. My opinion wouldn't change. All he'll be next year is a year older. Even if he pitches great it still won't improve his trade value. Teams won't forget this 10 game stretch. Nobody will want him even with a couple good starts. For the benefit of the club you need to keep Floyd in there. Why is this even a question ? "The way [Floyd] pitched, we should give him another start," manager Ozzie Guillen said. Why are they trying to appease Contreras ? Guillen said he would decide Tuesday whether the Sox would opt for a six-man rotation and settle the status of Jose Contreras, who warmed up in the bullpen Sunday.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:34 am ]
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BD wrote: Beardown wrote: There is no reason to pitch Jose. I'm even looking at it from the Sox perspective. Even if he has a couple good starts I still wouldn't be confident in him next season. My opinion wouldn't change. All he'll be next year is a year older. Even if he pitches great it still won't improve his trade value. Teams won't forget this 10 game stretch. Nobody will want him even with a couple good starts. For the benefit of the club you need to keep Floyd in there. Why is this even a question ? "The way [Floyd] pitched, we should give him another start," manager Ozzie Guillen said. Why are they trying to appease Contreras ? Guillen said he would decide Tuesday whether the Sox would opt for a six-man rotation and settle the status of Jose Contreras, who warmed up in the bullpen Sunday. Jose Contreras should not start another game this year, unless it is Triple A as a rehab. I understand Ozzie wanting let a veteran "work through" a rough spot. But, this more than a rough spot. The guy obviously does not have it this year. No matter what he does for the next 2 months, he will not ahve any trade value in the offseason. So, shut him down and hope to catch lighting in a bottle with him in 08.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:19 pm ]
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Stone is dead on here with his analysis of Floyd - he needs to establish he can get his off speed stuff earlier in the games so they dont sit on his 90 MPH fastball.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:23 pm ]
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Preseason football kills me.

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