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Dye has an option for a 3rd year for 12 million. Sox can buy him out for 1 million at that point.

Dye has a full no trade for year one.

I like it. It shows Kenny's not rebuilding. It's reasonable money and 2 years is perfect. Dye still has 2 years left in the tank.

Yeah. I know people. I'll get it to you first.

No. Cmon. I just recited what Bruce Levine said on the radio.

It's nice because Dye gets 9.5 next year. 12.5 in year two. So that's very cheap for next years pay roll. Maybe the Sox can move him to DH in 2009 if they get rid of Thome.

Maybe he has a nice year next year and the Sox can get some good value for a trade. Or he plays the 2 years and says good-bye.

It's a good deal unless he has a serious injury. But he's been relatively healthy the last 3 seasons. Even this year he'll end up playing 140 games.

The ?????'s at Short?

I thought Juan Uribe was another "Kenny Find" and he excelled in the 'Latin Culture" KW speaks of so much or at least used to.

Uribe serves his purpose. A very good glove at short, who can hit 15-20 homers at the bottom of the order. If you don't like this "Kenny find" what is your opinion of Aaron Miles, the guy who was traded for Uribe? :shock:

I think Uribe got fat and happy. The off season distraction with the courts seemed to have impacted his waistline and it's showed this season. If you can get him back at a deal, I am ok with him being back because I think the FA market for SS is light this year.

Hawkeye Vince wrote:

Although Omar Visquel is past his prime, a 50 year old Visquel with one arm would be better than Uribe. For some reason he was become my new White Sox whipping boy.

Author:	Beardown [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Dye Resigns - 2 years for 22 million
Dye has an option for a 3rd year for 12 million. Sox can buy him out for 1 million at that point. Dye has a full no trade for year one. I like it. It shows Kenny's not rebuilding. It's reasonable money and 2 years is perfect. Dye still has 2 years left in the tank.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:06 pm ]
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Beardown wrote: Dye has an option for a 3rd year for 12 million. Sox can buy him out for 1 million at that point. Dye has a full no trade for year one. I like it. It shows Kenny's not rebuilding. It's reasonable money and 2 years is perfect. Dye still has 2 years left in the tank. Beardown, saw your post and was confused. This must have just happened. You are ahead of ESPN.com and Whitesox.com. I have to give you props. Assuming that this is not a rumor. I think I like the move. I just wonder what this means for Centerfield and SS. I would bet that it means Juan Uribe is coming back for sure. I cant imagine that Kenny will be able to get one of the centerfielders after this deal. But, you never know. Maybe he moves Garland for some payroll room. I would assume that Thome is gone after next year (if not before) and Dye becomes the DH. Then they have Sweeny in RF. It is going to be an interesting off-season.

Author:	good dolphin [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:02 pm ]
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It's a solid move. I imagine this means Owens is the CF next year with Fields in LF. You can win with that group.

Author:	Beardown [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:16 pm ]
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Yeah. I know people. I'll get it to you first. No. Cmon. I just recited what Bruce Levine said on the radio. It's nice because Dye gets 9.5 next year. 12.5 in year two. So that's very cheap for next years pay roll. Maybe the Sox can move him to DH in 2009 if they get rid of Thome. Maybe he has a nice year next year and the Sox can get some good value for a trade. Or he plays the 2 years and says good-bye. It's a good deal unless he has a serious injury. But he's been relatively healthy the last 3 seasons. Even this year he'll end up playing 140 games.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:44 pm ]
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Beardown wrote: Yeah. I know people. I'll get it to you first. No. Cmon. I just recited what Bruce Levine said on the radio. It's nice because Dye gets 9.5 next year. 12.5 in year two. So that's very cheap for next years pay roll. Maybe the Sox can move him to DH in 2009 if they get rid of Thome. Maybe he has a nice year next year and the Sox can get some good value for a trade. Or he plays the 2 years and says good-bye. It's a good deal unless he has a serious injury. But he's been relatively healthy the last 3 seasons. Even this year he'll end up playing 140 games. It all comes down to rebuilding the bullpen and holding the rotation together. In three years we have had Dye, he has been great for MOST of the time. Lets not forget that he was pretty bad early on in 05. The rest of the team picked it up. Kenny needs to find some help in the pen and maybe even a starter (not sold on Denks yet) if they want to be in the mix in 08.

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Author:	NotInTheBiz [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:03 pm ]
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What will this mean for BA? Ozzie was quoted this week about Anderson not playing Winter Ball last year because of his "illness"

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:51 pm ]
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Beardown wrote: Yeah. I know people. I'll get it to you first. No. Cmon. I just recited what Bruce Levine said on the radio. It's nice because Dye gets 9.5 next year. 12.5 in year two. So that's very cheap for next years pay roll. Maybe the Sox can move him to DH in 2009 if they get rid of Thome. Maybe he has a nice year next year and the Sox can get some good value for a trade. Or he plays the 2 years and says good-bye. It's a good deal unless he has a serious injury. But he's been relatively healthy the last 3 seasons. Even this year he'll end up playing 140 games. I like it, now it's time to drop Pods & bring up Sweeney to see what he can do. The key to 2008 will be Crede's back and ????'s play at short.

Author:	bigfan [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:13 am ]
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The ?????'s at Short? I thought Juan Uribe was another "Kenny Find" and he excelled in the 'Latin Culture" KW speaks of so much or at least used to.

Author:	MartyD [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:41 am ]
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Uribe serves his purpose. A very good glove at short, who can hit 15-20 homers at the bottom of the order. If you don't like this "Kenny find" what is your opinion of Aaron Miles, the guy who was traded for Uribe?

Author:	hawkeye [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:04 pm ]
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bigfan wrote: The ?????'s at Short? I thought Juan Uribe was another "Kenny Find" and he excelled in the 'Latin Culture" KW speaks of so much or at least used to. There's that cheap Uncle Jerry striking again with 11mil a year on a player huh Bigfan? I really like this signing as long as he keeps his socks up and stays healthy. He's one of my favorite players on this team. I would have missed some of those incredible plays he makes in the outfield.

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:07 pm ]
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MartyD wrote: Uribe serves his purpose. A very good glove at short, who can hit 15-20 homers at the bottom of the order. If you don't like this "Kenny find" what is your opinion of Aaron Miles, the guy who was traded for Uribe? He has not the player he was in 04 and 05. He has gotten worse at the plate, not better. It was one thing in 05 and 06 and you had a lineup full of guys that were hitting. You could afford to have someone like Uribe. But when you look ahead to next year, you will now have a centerfielder, shortstop, and left fielder that will be LUCKY to hit .260. I like Fields, but even he will not be what Crede was offenseively in 06. I am not saying that the Sox did not get the better of that trade, I am saying that it is time to move on. This team needs an offensive upgrade going into next year somehwere. The White Sox need another guy in their lineup that is going to hit .280 plus and Juan Uribe wont do that.

Author:	BD [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:10 pm ]
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The payroll for next season is going to be very interesting. Obviously, I'm sure they would love to get rid Jose Contreras' deal, but that isn't happening. With Jon Garland entering his walk year, and with talk probably increasing about him being moved to create/save some payroll, how do the White Sox realistically compete with only 2 dependable starters (Buerhle and Vazquez) should they move him ? Looking at the overall offense, I would expect to see Jerry Owens in CF, and Josh Fields in LF, and this move probably eliminates the White Sox from bringing back Aaron Rowand. Although Kenny Williams recently gave a non-direct answer to the 3B situation, it just doesn't make any sense to not bring Crede back unless he is convinced that medically he wouldn't be able to come back. Under that scenario, Fields would be back at 3B, and Owens could shift to LF for a CF addition. SS is another hole. I don't expect Uribe back, and certainly not at $5 million. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Omar Vizquel for one season, and platooned Cintron with him in a makeshift position. There just isn't many options to improve this position (no, I'm not even thinking about Alex Rodriguez). The only other name I've heard is Rafael Furcal, but he has has a big contract (around $11 million) though it is a short-term deal. He'd be the kind of player the White Sox could use at the top of the order so if they are going to keep their payroll where it's at, I'm sure there will be rumors of a Garland for Furcal trade, though, again, I'm not sure how trading Garland makes your team better for next season. Looking at next season's payroll, the White Sox have freed up a potential $8 million from trading Iguchi (and not resigning him) and Mackowiak. Buerhle and Dye's extensions will probably wash this though. They can also free up additional salary by non-tendering Crede ($4.9), Podsednik ($2.9), Erstad ($3.5) as well.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:20 pm ]
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I think Uribe got fat and happy. The off season distraction with the courts seemed to have impacted his waistline and it's showed this season. If you can get him back at a deal, I am ok with him being back because I think the FA market for SS is light this year.

Author:	BD [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:36 pm ]
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OldSchoolScoreFan wrote: Hawkeye Vince wrote: I think Uribe got fat and happy. The off season distraction with the courts seemed to have impacted his waistline and it's showed this season. If you can get him back at a deal, I am ok with him being back because I think the FA market for SS is light this year. Although Omar Visquel is past his prime, a 50 year old Visquel with one arm would be better than Uribe. For some reason he was become my new White Sox whipping boy. I wouldn't be satsified with Uribe or another aging SS. Unfortunately, I don't think we have many options.

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