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bigfan wrote:

Please.

Anyone who plays in a deep/keeper fantasy league has watched this guy for 4 years.

He never worked out in Az and they have a ton young players, so they moved him. In the D Backs world 25 and been floating for 4 years between AAA and MLB is not what they wanted.

Who knows. Maybe the guy finds the juice and turns a 14 HR a year 4th OF into free agent goldmine.

It's like putting a $25 on RED 23 and letting the wheel spin.

The only real costs here is if you left the $25 on RED 1 (Chris Carter) and become the next Chris Young.

I applaude Kenny for taking these chances, but thats what it is a chance and a risk, it's just when it works out, don't start telling me about "Herm and the strength coaches and the BP guys and Beer Vendors and how it is a testament to the entire organization." Puke

Maybe you just get Lucky, like you did with Jenks and just chalk it up to that.

Red 23, Sox are lucky. All good teams and GMs need luck. The Cub were quite lucky on thier recent homestand.

bigfan wrote:

Looks like 23 RED just hit.

Just curious big fan, did you get this fired up when your Cubbies spent 40 million on Jason Marquis ? 40 million for a pitcher who is a better hitter than he is a pitcher.

I guess $7mil a year still seems to be a bargain for a pitcher who hits better than he pitches.

You're comparing a handful of bad starts by a Mark Buehrle, a 2 time all star and a guy who has been ON the playoff roster both times his team has made the postseason, to the likes of a Jason Marquis?

$100 Marquis vs. Buehrle W-L and ERA. Put your money where your mouth is.

Author:	BD [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:	White Sox Acquire LF
According to MLB Radio, the D’Backs will soon announce that they have traded OF Carlos Quentin to the White Sox for 20–year-old 1B Chris Carter. ** This guy was a top prospect in the Arizona system, but was injured last season. If this deal goes down, and he is our LF, I'm not sure how this closes the gap between the White Sox and Cleveland/Detroit. It also may make Jerry Owens the CF because they still wouldn't have a leadoff hitter in their lineup. Quentin put up a 1.004 OPS last year in AAA after being sent down for 1/2 of the season when he struggled upon coming back from a torn Labrum he suffered in ST. In 166 at bats with Arizona, in the big leagues, in 2006, he put up a : .253 .342 .530 872, with 9 home runs (in a full season that would be around 30 homers).

Author:	Stinkfinger The Crow [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:44 pm ]
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He was also, along with former Sox prospect Chris Young featured on "The Show".

Author:	FYI [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:13 pm ]
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This is a case of the Sox acquiring someone elses junk and I sure hope kenny is right on carter, because Quentin has been a top prospect for 3 years now for AZ. I think they saw a kid who turned into a moderate power hitter hitter who strikes out alot . Great. fabulous. I will admit I don't know enough about Carter, but being 19 in single A and Baseball prospectus has him as a #3 prospect. Are they right ? because all the other crap I hear about the Sox prospects are ranked too? Sweeney? Broadway? they are ranked well below the guy they just traded Five-Star Prospects 1. Fautino de los Santos, RHP Four-Star Prospects 2. Gio Gonzalez, LHP 3. Aaron Poreda, RHP Three-Star Prospects 4. Chris Carter, 1B 5. John Shelby, CF 6. Jose Martinez, OF Two-Star Prospects 7. Jack Egbert, RHP 8. Ryan Sweeney, OF 9. Lance Broadway, RHP One-Star Prospects 10. Brian Omogrosso, RHP 11. Kyle McCulloch, RHP

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:14 pm ]
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Kenny has tried to trade for this guy before. He has a lot of upside and trading a 20 yr old first baseman to get him is fine. I don't think Owens will be the starting CF next season. Kenny's not done upgrading the OF.

Author:	FYI [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Carter
Chris Carter, 1b, Rookie-level Great Falls (White Sox) A 15th-round pick out of a Las Vegas high school last June, the White Sox thought they had found a sleeper in Carter when he bashed 10 home runs in his pro debut, but he struggled in an assignment to full-season Kannapolis in April, going 6-for-46 (.130) with 17 strikeouts in 13 games before getting reassigned to extended spring training. Sent out to the White Sox' Pioneer League affiliate in June, the optimism is back. Carter hit home runs in two of his first three games and has never looked back, going 8-for-12 over the weekend with his 10th home run, raising his season averages to .351/.431/.745 in 94 at-bats. A huge (6-foot-4, 220 pounds) presence at the plate with an all-or-nothing approach, Carter will always rack up high strikeout totals, but he's a pretty interesting young power prospect in a system that lacks them.

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Author:	Mustang Rob [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:27 pm ]
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He had a good year in 2007 - .291- 25hr- 93rbi http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... er-5.shtml

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:24 pm ]
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Please. Anyone who plays in a deep/keeper fantasy league has watched this guy for 4 years. He never worked out in Az and they have a ton young players, so they moved him. In the D Backs world 25 and been floating for 4 years between AAA and MLB is not what they wanted. Who knows. Maybe the guy finds the juice and turns a 14 HR a year 4th OF into free agent goldmine. It's like putting a $25 on RED 23 and letting the wheel spin. The only real costs here is if you left the $25 on RED 1 (Chris Carter) and become the next Chris Young. I applaude Kenny for taking these chances, but thats what it is a chance and a risk, it's just when it works out, don't start telling me about "Herm and the strength coaches and the BP guys and Beer Vendors and how it is a testament to the entire organization." Puke Maybe you just get Lucky, like you did with Jenks and just chalk it up to that.

Author:	Chus [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:44 am ]
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bigfan wrote: Please. Anyone who plays in a deep/keeper fantasy league has watched this guy for 4 years. He never worked out in Az and they have a ton young players, so they moved him. In the D Backs world 25 and been floating for 4 years between AAA and MLB is not what they wanted. Who knows. Maybe the guy finds the juice and turns a 14 HR a year 4th OF into free agent goldmine. It's like putting a $25 on RED 23 and letting the wheel spin. Looks like 23 RED just hit. Just curious big fan, did you get this fired up when your Cubbies spent 40 million on Jason Marquis ? 40 million for a pitcher who is a better hitter than he is a pitcher.

Author:	Brick [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:47 am ]
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Once again, another great move by the best current GM in Chicago! How did that Freddy Garcia trade work out? It is obvious that the Chicago White Sox are in very good(but loud and sometimes obnoxious) hands. Thank you Kenny Williams for being the best GM in Chicago since Jerry Krause!

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:52 am ]
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Nas wrote: bigfan wrote: Please. Anyone who plays in a deep/keeper fantasy league has watched this guy for 4 years. He never worked out in Az and they have a ton young players, so they moved him. In the D Backs world 25 and been floating for 4 years between AAA and MLB is not what they wanted. Who knows. Maybe the guy finds the juice and turns a 14 HR a year 4th OF into free agent goldmine. It's like putting a $25 on RED 23 and letting the wheel spin. The only real costs here is if you left the $25 on RED 1 (Chris Carter) and become the next Chris Young. I applaude Kenny for taking these chances, but thats what it is a chance and a risk, it's just when it works out, don't start telling me about "Herm and the strength coaches and the BP guys and Beer Vendors and how it is a testament to the entire organization." Puke Maybe you just get Lucky, like you did with Jenks and just chalk it up to that. LMAO! I think this is a good move. Can't hurt when you consider Dye is the only good outfielder the Sox have. Byrnes is the reason I think they are getting rid of Quentin. Don't forget Maggs was a rule 5 pick up. I looked at this thread a few days ago and had a post typed out for BF but didn't submit it. Funny how the part after 'LMAO' wasn't there then.....

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 19, 2008 11:04 am ]
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Red 23, Sox are lucky. All good teams and GMs need luck. The Cub were quite lucky on thier recent homestand.

Author:	Brick [ Mon May 19, 2008 11:07 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Red 23, Sox are lucky. All good teams and GMs need luck. The Cub were quite lucky on thier recent homestand. It is no coincidence that the White Sox are luckier than most.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 20, 2008 12:12 pm ]
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Coincidence that bigfan has stayed out of this thread since its been bumped?

Author:	Bulldog Scott [ Tue May 20, 2008 12:20 pm ]
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Chus wrote: bigfan wrote: Please. Anyone who plays in a deep/keeper fantasy league has watched this guy for 4 years. He never worked out in Az and they have a ton young players, so they moved him. In the D Backs world 25 and been floating for 4 years between AAA and MLB is not what they wanted. Who knows. Maybe the guy finds the juice and turns a 14 HR a year 4th OF into free agent goldmine. It's like putting a $25 on RED 23 and letting the wheel spin. Looks like 23 RED just hit. Just curious big fan, did you get this fired up when your Cubbies spent 40 million on Jason Marquis ? 40 million for a pitcher who is a better hitter than he is a pitcher. Marquis was 3 years/$21 Million.

Author:	Beardown [ Tue May 20, 2008 1:50 pm ]
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While Buehrle hasn't been great he hasn't been awful either. I think he's had 3 or 4 quality starts. Opening day really inflated that ERA. His defense let him down in other games. He's lost some low scoring games. He's fine.

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Author:	KDdidit [ Tue May 20, 2008 1:16 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: I guess $7mil a year still seems to be a bargain for a pitcher who hits better than he pitches. Well he makes half as much as a certain crosstown lefty and has the same # of wins and a lower ERA, so yeah, he's a bargain.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 20, 2008 1:29 pm ]
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You're comparing a handful of bad starts by a Mark Buehrle, a 2 time all star and a guy who has been ON the playoff roster both times his team has made the postseason, to the likes of a Jason Marquis? $100 Marquis vs. Buehrle W-L and ERA. Put your money where your mouth is.

Author:	KDdidit [ Tue May 20, 2008 1:40 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: You're comparing a handful of bad starts by a Mark Buehrle, a 2 time all star and a guy who has been ON the playoff roster both times his team has made the postseason, to the likes of a Jason Marquis? $100 Marquis vs. Buehrle W-L and ERA. Put your money where your mouth is. Nope I'm just saying Buerhle has sucked so far this year while making $14M while Marquis is making $6.375M. Easy killer.

Author:	BigW72 [ Wed May 21, 2008 9:11 am ]
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I agree. Mark has had 3 or 4 bad starts. he's also had some REALLY good starts. This is different than the 2nd half of 2006 where he just plain sucked at every start. #56 will be fine.