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Author:  bigfan [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Kenny going to Sue and Punch Jose

"I don't take too kindly to being called a liar,'' Williams said. "I'm pretty consistent in how I answer questions and do business. So I need to take a look and see from a legal perspective if I want to see how damaging those comments were. I'm not the guy that you want to go down that road with, because I'm more likely to come out swinging and I'll swing a (heck) of a lot harder than any punch you'll throw at me.''

Daily Herald

I know all the Sox fans love that Kenny is a tough guy, aggressive, grrr argghhh, but he is an idiot for even talking about this shit with conseco publicly.

Author:  Beardown [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:55 am ]
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Nothing wrong with what Kenny said. He feels he was slandered and he's defending himself. That's what you do Big Fan.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:03 pm ]
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You, of all people, should know about this bigfan. You're the one who got an email from HUGE and his lawer.

Author:  Apologist [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:13 pm ]
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It's all posturing, Kenny just trying to maintain his street cred with the Chicago toughguy demographic.

Any self respecting judge would laugh this motion right out of court...

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:09 pm ]
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Apologist wrote:
It's all posturing, Kenny just trying to maintain his street cred with the Chicago toughguy demographic.

Any self respecting judge would laugh this motion right out of court...


I agree. Kenny is a public figure, theres no way anyone is ruling in his favor in a court. Still, I like the fact that he came back aggressively. I dont like the "no comment" crowd.

Author:  Mr. Reason [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:41 pm ]
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I'll say one thing for Kenny, he is the toughest talking blowhard that ever generally managed a Chicago team.
He was probably too busy flipping over buffet tables to notice Canseco injecting Maggs.

Author:  bigfan [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:39 pm ]
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Every week Kenny makes a dumb remark. He avoids the media until he needs to vent and thats the only time he talks. It just makes him look like the blowhard he is and all 16 of the diehard Sox fans love it. They love the tough guy image.

If Kenny felt that he was slandered, he should sue Conseco. Go for it. Prove that somehow the comments that Conseco made are really false and then prove how this cost him money.

I believe Conseco. Why did a reported 75% of MLB players use some sort of stimulus, etc. but Kenny had no knowledge of anyone using anything? am I really to believe all the Sox are clean?

Kenny even admits to knowing Conseco was 'blackballed' when he was signed. He was blackballed for talking about Steroid use. Yet Kenny didn't know anything? come on?

Author:  Beardown [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:42 pm ]
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Why don't you know how to spell Canseco Bigfan? Once is a typo. 5 times is sad.

I must be 1 of the 16 die hards you speak of (that was one of your rare shots at Sox fans BF). I'll have you know, my mullet is more shinny than the other 15. I notice that the better the Sox play the more you like to take shots at the fans. Coincidence? I don't love Kenny because he's a hard ass. I like him cuz I think he's a good GM.

Maybe, one day, Kenny will take on the personality of the model GM. Maybe one day he'll have the personality of Andy McPhail, Ed Lynch, or Jim Hendry. He's still learning Big Fan. Hell, he accidently won a World Series with this personality. Imagine what he can do if he gets one more to your liking.

Author:  Chus [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:30 am ]
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Big fan = Jay Mariotti

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:08 am ]
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Ok, all of baseball is dirty with steroids, just not the white sox. Ok, it has to be said, some of you white sox fans are 100 times worse then what you accuse cub fans of being. I love it, in one post, Kenny traded Mags because he knew about him doing steroids, but yet, Kenny didnt know about it...what? Fricken morons, you deserve to have Mike North and Fred H. as fellow fans, it makes sense now.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:21 am ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
Kenny traded Mags


Ordonez left the Sox as a free agent.


nWo4Life wrote:
Fricken morons


Takes one to know one.

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:45 am ]
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Ordonez left the Sox as a free agent.


Correct, I was thinking of C Lee.

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Takes one to know one


What r u, 12? Bring the heat Frank.

Kenny is never wrong, its never kennys fault, kenny loves kenny. Understand this, he has a ring, no one can take that away from him, but he is without a doubt a asshole. You can have the piece of shit, because with his arrogant attitude and lies.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:50 am ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
Bring the heat Frank.


I brought the same heat you brought to TCs pub.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:51 am ]
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Hey NWO (Freds). I just have a question: Why the hatred for the Sox? It's cool if you're not a fan but I'm just curious about the source of the venom. Is it more of a disdain for Kenny, for Reinsdorf, for White Sox fans, or for the organization as a whole?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:56 am ]
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Its a disdain for me, and since I am a White Sox fan, thats why the hatred is spewed.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:57 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Its a disdain for me, and since I am a White Sox fan, thats why the hatred is spewed.


You're a white sox fan?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:59 am ]
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Yep, go figure huh? ;)

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:39 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
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I know all the Sox fans love that Kenny is a tough guy, aggressive, grrr argghhh, but he is an idiot for even talking about this shit with conseco publicly.


You know that is untrue. I have frequently faulted KW for acting childish and undignified. He did it once again in this instance.

As a corporate executive he should have not time to worry about such triffles.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:28 am ]
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Regardless if him knowing or not, the Sox did not just flat out dump him. They had (at the time) the biggest offer in Sox history on the table for Mags, despite being injured. He turned it down. The offer was still on the table for the entire time he was on the DL, and was then pulled when he went to Vienna for that knee surgery.

Kenny clearly is a hothead, and his quick lip and short fuse get him into trouble now and then, but I will not fault them for the way the Ordonez situation was handled.

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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I brought the same heat you brought to TCs pub.


I was there and I will be there again BUDDY!


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Hey NWO (Freds). I just have a question: Why the hatred for the Sox? It's cool if you're not a fan but I'm just curious about the source of the venom. Is it more of a disdain for Kenny, for Reinsdorf, for White Sox fans, or for the organization as a whole?


I like the team, Konerko, A.J., Swisher, Buerhle and Jenks and I was a big white sox fan when I was a youngster. They were my AL team, the ken hendersons, jorge ortas, soderholms, banister and south side hitman, loved them.

Now, what I hate about them is Hawk, Farmer, Kenny and Jerry. Liars, excuse makers and more or less, not very good people in my opinion. I just dont like them and they make it hard for some sox fans I know to like the team. They all have rings, congrats they deserved it, I have never said they didnt, I just hate the way they do business. To be honest, it just goes to them saying they are a top 5 payroll, but then crying about not be able to spend. Kenny is on top of my list, he is arrogant prick who feels he can say anything about anyone, then the minute someone questions him, he gets pissed off, well coming off a 90 loss season, he should expect the heat, but he feels he shouldnt be held to those standards. He needs to realize the less he reacts, the less JM will write about him. Then to have Farmer and Hawk just spewing crap in his defense, nah, it isnt right.

But that doesnt mean I hate the team, I like the cell, I like their core of the team and I love their Manager, I just wish Jerry would sell the team and the new owner could fire Kenny and I would never have much to say about the white sox. It will be a good day for the white sox when Kenny is gone, because he is to involved with the day to day on field stuff, let Ozzie handle it, Kenny needs to stay in his office and worry about his job.

I have friends who are white sox fans, just like any fan base, you have those who blindly ignore the bad and just look for good, the braves, white sox and cubs all have those type of fans, it just seems to me, some people here feel no one is allowed to be critical of them unless they are a white sox fan, which isnt right, I am a Brave fan, but also a MLB fan. I live here, so I am going to comment on things. Its not like I dont bash the cubs, I do. Go over to METS.COM, they hate me, which is ok, but this isnt a personal vendetta agains white sox nation, not even close.

Thats my 2 cents. Thanks for asking me, because I just wanted to be sure people know I dont hate them.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:06 pm ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
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I brought the same heat you brought to TCs pub.


I was there and I will be there again BUDDY!


Bullshit.

Here, I'll call your bluff again. Name some songs that we played (songs that are NOT up on the myspace). We covered a lot of tunes, most of which are mainstream and pretty well known, both classic rock and some more current stuff. If you were there like you claimed, you should have no trouble naming 3 or 4 of the 35 songs we played.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:08 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:

If Kenny felt that he was slandered, he should sue Conseco. Go for it. Prove that somehow the comments that Conseco made are really false and then prove how this cost him money.


Irish Boy would be able to better elaborate here(or some others here who know more) but Im pretty sure that KW cant sue Canseco, even if he proves Jose was lying. You can a ton of shit about public figures and theres not a whole lot they can do about it from a legal point.

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:12 pm ]
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Here, I'll call your bluff again. Name some songs that we played


Cracker music as I call it. You were in the band? I didnt know that.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:13 pm ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
You were in the band?


Why are you asking? Weren't you there? :roll:

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:14 pm ]
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If Kenny felt that he was slandered, he should sue Conseco. Go for it. Prove that somehow the comments that Conseco made are really false and then prove how this cost him money.


I know what Kenny hates the most, "the truth".

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:14 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
nWo4Life wrote:
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I brought the same heat you brought to TCs pub.


I was there and I will be there again BUDDY!


Bullshit.

Here, I'll call your bluff again. Name some songs that we played (songs that are NOT up on the myspace). We covered a lot of tunes, most of which are mainstream and pretty well known, both classic rock and some more current stuff. If you were there like you claimed, you should have no trouble naming 3 or 4 of the 35 songs we played.


I Am Woman Hear Me Roar

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:15 pm ]
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Damn guys this is getting old. Who the fuck cares, its a damn message board. If you are that angry that you need to pick on someone on a message board, become a boxer or UFC fighter and take out your pent up aggression that way. It comes off as very immature on a message board.

Author:  nWo4Life [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:15 pm ]
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I Am Woman Hear Me Roar


Image

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:16 pm ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
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If Kenny felt that he was slandered, he should sue Conseco. Go for it. Prove that somehow the comments that Conseco made are really false and then prove how this cost him money.


I know what Kenny hates the most, "the truth".


Are you a Cubs fan? Truth is he has a WS ring and a better track record as GM so far than your guy Hendry does.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:16 pm ]
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nWo4Life wrote:
I like the team, Konerko, A.J., Swisher, Buerhle and Jenks and I was a big white sox fan when I was a youngster. They were my AL team, the ken hendersons, jorge ortas, soderholms, banister and south side hitman, loved them.

Now, what I hate about them is Hawk, Farmer, Kenny and Jerry. Liars, excuse makers and more or less, not very good people in my opinion. I just dont like them and they make it hard for some sox fans I know to like the team. They all have rings, congrats they deserved it, I have never said they didnt, I just hate the way they do business. To be honest, it just goes to them saying they are a top 5 payroll, but then crying about not be able to spend. Kenny is on top of my list, he is arrogant prick who feels he can say anything about anyone, then the minute someone questions him, he gets pissed off, well coming off a 90 loss season, he should expect the heat, but he feels he shouldnt be held to those standards. He needs to realize the less he reacts, the less JM will write about him. Then to have Farmer and Hawk just spewing crap in his defense, nah, it isnt right.

But that doesnt mean I hate the team, I like the cell, I like their core of the team and I love their Manager, I just wish Jerry would sell the team and the new owner could fire Kenny and I would never have much to say about the white sox. It will be a good day for the white sox when Kenny is gone, because he is to involved with the day to day on field stuff, let Ozzie handle it, Kenny needs to stay in his office and worry about his job.

I have friends who are white sox fans, just like any fan base, you have those who blindly ignore the bad and just look for good, the braves, white sox and cubs all have those type of fans, it just seems to me, some people here feel no one is allowed to be critical of them unless they are a white sox fan, which isnt right, I am a Brave fan, but also a MLB fan. I live here, so I am going to comment on things. Its not like I dont bash the cubs, I do. Go over to METS.COM, they hate me, which is ok, but this isnt a personal vendetta agains white sox nation, not even close.

Thats my 2 cents. Thanks for asking me, because I just wanted to be sure people know I dont hate them.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

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