Chicago Fanatics Message Board
https://mail.chicagofanatics.com/

CARLTON FISK
https://mail.chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=21058		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  bigfan [ Tue May 13, 2008 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  CARLTON FISK
Congrats on finally getting a player that anyone cares about to represent your organization.

Don't give me Melton or Skowron either. Skowron, far from a Sox great and Melton has about as much personality as a chunk of firewood.

This all goes along the lines of Reinsdorf love of Harold Baines as "The Most Popular White Sox Player Ever" his words, not mine.
Author:  Beardown [ Tue May 13, 2008 7:21 pm ]
Post subject: 
Fisk was a decent player. I liked him as a kid. Truth be told: He was also an ass hole. He was never friendly towards fans. He was rude to people from what I've heard. Probably still is.

He was never a super star player. I think he's kind of overrated. Because he was a catcher his offensive numbers were good enough for the HOF. They weren't great offensive numbers. Also, he hung around for a long time. So he was able to pile up those numbers. He was able to leave the game with: Most games caught; Most HRs by a catcher.

You talk about Melton's personality Big Fan. Fisk doesn't have much of one either. Both of those guys have more than Baines. Baines hasn't talked to anybody since 1981.

Reinsdorf is probably paying him 20 grand to do this "Ambassador" thing. He shows up to a few games and Sox Fest probably. He just smiles, signs a few autographs, and waves to the fans. Easy money.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed May 14, 2008 7:47 am ]
Post subject: 
Beardown wrote:
Fisk was a decent player. .


understatement
Author:  bigfan [ Wed May 14, 2008 10:49 am ]
Post subject: 
I have met Fisk and he is a good guy.

I know when he was a player he was kind of an ass, but once players get away from the game for awhile they change, They realize how great it was to be a player and they become a hell of alot nicer.

Dave Kingman, Steve Carlton, Ryne Sandberg, these are guys who has very little say , if anything, when they played, now they are your best buddie.

Harold still hasn't said anything
Author:  My Coach Vinny [ Wed May 14, 2008 11:00 am ]
Post subject: 
When I decided to change my board moniker, Silent Hal (not to be confused with Silent Bob that bigfan rocked at the time) was under serious consideration.
Author:  Mustang Rob [ Wed May 14, 2008 2:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
Why would any self respecting White Sox fan care about the guy who chose to disrespect their organization?
Image
Author:  bigfan [ Wed May 14, 2008 3:13 pm ]
Post subject: 
You mean like letting him catch his record setting game, then not telling him he was cut the next day until he got on the plane to Baltimore for an away game? (pretty sure it was Baltimore)

Carlton Fisk was one of the big splashes Eddie (Remember him) and Jerry Bought when they acquired the team. Luzinski being the other.

The guy was a fan favorite for years. He was a definite leader. he lives here, it's a good guy to have around.

Actually the first good guy the Sox have chosen to have around.
Author:  Beardown [ Wed May 14, 2008 3:19 pm ]
Post subject: 
Fisk was the face of the White Sox in the 1980's. With the exception of 1983, that was a miserable decade for the Sox.

Yeah, he was a decent player. I kind of like the fact that we don't worship guys who played on bad teams the way Cubs fans worship the players of the 60's. The 60's were also miserable for the Cubs.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 14, 2008 3:50 pm ]
Post subject: 
Beardown wrote:
I kind of like the fact that we don't worship guys who played on bad teams the way Cubs fans worship the players of the 60's.


Yeah, we just build statues for them. I think Swisher's is already in the works. It will be of him looking back at the ump after falling behind 0-2 in the count.
Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed May 14, 2008 3:52 pm ]
Post subject: 
thurman munson was better. moment of silence. thank you.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 14, 2008 3:53 pm ]
Post subject: 
man of few opinions wrote:
thurman munson was better.


No.
Author:  Beardown [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:00 pm ]
Post subject: 
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Beardown wrote:
I kind of like the fact that we don't worship guys who played on bad teams the way Cubs fans worship the players of the 60's.


Yeah, we just build statues for them. I think Swisher's is already in the works. It will be of him looking back at the ump after falling behind 0-2 in the count.


That's the White Sox doing it. They build the statues. Not the fans. I just don't sense this overwhelming love for players on bad teams. Yeah, we like them but we also realize they didn't win anything so it's not over-the-top adoration.
Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
Frank Coztansa wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
thurman munson was better.


No.


yes, but sadly we will never know what kind of career numbers he would have put up. his playoff and world series numbers are phenomenal.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
Yeah, we share our over the top love with a guy who won once, but should have won a lot more.


COOOOOATTTCH!!!!
Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
im not saying fisk sucked, but munson was a better hitter, although fisk had more power. munson was also an iron man behind the plate, he hardly ever took a day off. he had 7 straight years of 140 + games behind the plate and was on pace to make it 8, fisk only played that many games in a season 3 times total in his whole career. he was also 1976 league mvp.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:23 pm ]
Post subject: 
man of few opinions wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
thurman munson was better.


No.


yes, but sadly we will never know what kind of career numbers he would have put up. his playoff and world series numbers are phenomenal.


You cannot take away from the player beacuse he was never in the World Series.

Ted Williams never was either.
Author:  Mustang Rob [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:23 pm ]
Post subject: 
bigfan wrote:
You mean like letting him catch his record setting game, then not telling him he was cut the next day until he got on the plane to Baltimore for an away game? (pretty sure it was Baltimore)

Carlton Fisk was one of the big splashes Eddie (Remember him) and Jerry Bought when they acquired the team. Luzinski being the other.

The guy was a fan favorite for years. He was a definite leader. he lives here, it's a good guy to have around.

Actually the first good guy the Sox have chosen to have around.


I was around when Fisk was the face of the team.
I watched him tag out 2 yanks on the same play, go after Dion for not running out a grounder, and stumble around in LF.
All I'm saying is that when a player chooses to go into the HOF with another team's cap, a team for whom he played fewer games, the organization should move on.
You don't see the Yankees trot out Winfield as one of their legends, and I'm pretty sure the Red Sox wouldn't kiss up to Clemens (even before the Mitchell report).
The sox showed no class in how they handled his release, and Fisk showed just as little when he made his HOF head wear decision.

IMHO, Pudge's past interactions with the fans indicate that he'll be as effective in the role of an ambassador for the Sox as Ivan Calderon would be right now.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:29 pm ]
Post subject: 
He gone!
Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:59 pm ]
Post subject: 
Frank Coztansa wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
thurman munson was better.


No.


yes, but sadly we will never know what kind of career numbers he would have put up. his playoff and world series numbers are phenomenal.


You cannot take away from the player beacuse he was never in the World Series.

Ted Williams never was either.


im not taking anything away from fisk (he actually was in a world series, btw, flapping his arms, dont you remember?), i am just saying that munson proved in every postseason series he was in that he was a great clutch hitter. and durable as a piece of iron behind the plate. he was one of the greats.
Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Wed May 14, 2008 10:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
I think Munson was probably a bit better, but both were great. Fisk was one of the hardest working athletes ever. He made himself into a great player and was able to play much longer at the most demanding position, because of his work ethic. Training long after games concluded, he paid the price for the success he enjoyed. It's too bad it showed too seldom, that he actually enjoyed it. He was always so serious about his job, that it just never seemed like he got the joy from playing as well as he did, that he should have.
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/