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| Author: | Beardown [ Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:46 pm ] |
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I'm already moving on. Rematch of the 1959 World Series. Bad news: Dodgers pitch pretty well. Good news: Dodgers can't hit worth shit. I mean they are awful offensively. Sox will take 2 out of 3 for sure. There is a chance we sweep. We'll have to pull out one 2-1 game to do that. |
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| Author: | RodeoVann [ Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:48 pm ] |
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You are right about their hitting, its awful. Good Luck. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:54 pm ] |
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Yeah but depending on the day or week, the Sox offense can be just as bad. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:08 am ] |
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Not really. They've been pretty damn good since the Tampa series. Of course they're gonna have some 1 or 2 run games. But that's all teams. Sox team offense is climbing in all offensive stats. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:00 am ] |
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Who the hell makes this schedule? Play 9 in Chicago, go to LA for 3 and then come back for 10 more? Hell, they should just bus over to LA. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:31 am ] |
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Bus it? I know Jerry is, ahem 'frugal', but he's no Rachel Phelps. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:40 am ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Bus it? I know Jerry is, ahem 'frugal', but he's no Rachel Phelps.
I was making a joke about the fact that they are playing 9 in Chicago and then 10 more....this trip is sandwiched in between that like it's down the street. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:47 am ] |
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Yeah it is pretty poor scheduling. Every team has a trip or 2 like that though. At least they have the off day today to travel, and the game Friday isn't until 3. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:06 am ] |
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I hope these pussies don't forget to pack their woobies and night lights. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:06 pm ] |
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The Dodgers aren't nearly in the same class as the Cubs, and I actually feel better about this series than I did vs. the Northsiders at Wrigley. The Dodgers don't score as many runs, they've been banged up and I don't think their pitching is that great. Then again, while they're 5 games under .500 and a second place team in the N.L. West, they did take 2 out of 3 from the Cubs at Dodger Stadium earlier this month... |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:02 pm ] |
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The Dogers are still without Furcal, Garciaparra, Andew Jones (who was hitting for crap just the same) and Jason Schmidt. It's a team that has been decimated by injuries. That said, they have a lot of young players who are playing pretty well and Derek Lowe pitching in the first game on Tuesday. Wednesday the Dogers have a lefty-Stults pitching. He did well in one start , going 6 innings giving up just one earned run. But in his career, he has not been very good and has had problems giving up home runs. The Sox should take 2 of 3 in the series. But they have lost 9 in a row on the road and if they lose the first game vs Lowe, it could get dicey.If they beat Lowe, on the other hand, they could sweep. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:06 pm ] |
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Yeah. That Lowe game is the one they'll have to win 2-1 probably. Buehrle is going for us that game. He's been pretty good in his last few starts. Buehrle, Floyd, Contreras go for the Sox in this series. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:13 pm ] |
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So they've flipped Jose and Danks? If they have, considering how each threw against the Cub, thats a very wise move. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:22 pm ] |
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Oh yeah. Sorry. It is Danks in game 3. Buehrle Floyd Danks |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:27 pm ] |
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Your first matchup for game 3 makes more sense. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:12 pm ] |
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One more thing to keep in mind-The Dodgers start lefties in games 2 & 3 and the Sox have a losing record against lefties with a team batting average of just under .200 against them. The guys the Dodgers will be starting after Lowe should get beat like a drum-they are not GOOD lefties. But the fact is, they have had trouble with left handers. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:13 pm ] |
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Wrong Steve. Sox have done very well against lefties this year. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:15 pm ] |
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Beardown wrote: Wrong Steve. Sox have done very well against lefties this year.
Last I saw, they were 4-7, with a .191 BA with 6 homers and 53 Strikeouts. What stats do you have on it? |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:18 pm ] |
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Pretty sure that's wrong. I think Thome, alone, has 6 homers against lefties. I know he has 3 against Sabathia alone. I'll try to find their record some where. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:44 pm ] |
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Sox are 14-11 vs left handed starters. Got that from baseballreference.com. I think we've lost the last 2 vs lefties however. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:25 am ] |
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I just went to baseballreference.com to check on that, and could not find any breakdown there on stats vs left handed pitching. The stats I got were directly from an article on the Sox own website. If the Sox are 14-11 against Lefthanded starters, that means you are stating that in 75 games to date, they have faced lefties in 1 of every 3 games as 14-11 means they have faced left handers in 25 games. That out of 75 games. With the number of Right handed starters being far greater than lefties that doesnt seem likely. Plus, as I said, I went to the site and did not see any sortable stats that broke down their games against lefties. If you can copy and paste it, I would love to see it. I know they just lost to Lilly and very recently to Kenny Rogers. As I said, the stats I got, were from the Sox own site. Although the article was a bit dated. But to be accurate, they have not lost to the last 2 lefties they faced, as they beat Gorzelanny, in the Pirate series, between Lilly and Rogers. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:17 am ] |
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Beardown wrote: Sox are 14-11 vs left handed starters. Got that from baseballreference.com.
I think we've lost the last 2 vs lefties however. In the interest of accuracy I have gone through EVERY box score from the 2008 season. In fact, the Sox are now 10-7 with 5 No Decisions against left handed starters. They have beat Gorzelanny, Perkins, Laffey, Sabathia, Zito, Sanchez, Washburn, Loewen, Eveland, and Rogers. They have lost to Lilly, Rogers, Kazmir, Laffey, Saunders, Burres, and Smith. They have ND's against Francis, Robertson, Sabathia as well as 2 against Willis. They have lost 5 of their last 7 decisions against lefties however. They are now batting .235 on the season vs left handers. I knew they couldnt have 25 decisions vs left handed starters, at this point in the season. Last year, they were 16-28 against them. Thats 44 decisions on the whole year. Probably why they just signed Craig Wilson to a minor league contract. He hits lefties fairly well - .278 career against Southpaws. With the Sox starting to trend more towards the record they had last year vs lefties, they obviously want to beef up the right handed hitting. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:32 am ] |
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Blue tinted glasses I see. Lilly did not get the win on Friday. So much for your interest of accuracy. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:37 pm ] |
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I got it by looking at the Sox break down. I scrolled down. In parenthesis it said what the Sox are vs. Lefties, Righties, on the road, on turf. They are 14-11 agains lefties. Plus I watch all of the Sox games and have heard DJ say how well the Sox have done against lefties this year. That's why I knew you were wrong initially, Steve. They were awful last year against lefties. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:23 pm ] |
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Tigers and Indians both lost tonight. Twins are playing in San Diego right now. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:27 pm ] |
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Kinda sucks to get the bases loaded with no outs and only get one run. Not the first nor last time with this team though. |
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| Author: | newper [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:06 pm ] |
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Beardown wrote: I watch all of the Sox games and have heard DJ say how well the Sox have done against lefties this year. That's why I knew you were wrong initially, Steve. They were awful last year against lefties.
2008: vs LHP .235/.325/.406 2007: vs LHP .242/.321/.410 So actually they are performing marginally worse in average and slugging, and marginally better at getting on base. I'd say they look nearly the same. So unless DJ was speaking purely a win-loss record, he should take a look at some stats. Source: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?team=CHW&year=2008 (and the 07 link on that page too) |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:17 pm ] |
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Those stats are against all lefties. Bullpen included. I was talking about how the Sox do against lefty starters. They have a winning record this year. Last year they were horrible. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:31 pm ] |
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Great fuckin catch by Alexei. Beuhrles really been goin good lately. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:24 pm ] |
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Hey!!! We finally hit a pretty good pitcher. 5 runs off Lowe today. Buehrle has a sub 2.00 ERA in his last 5 starts. 3-0 in that span. |
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