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Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:47 pm ]
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Bruce Levine is reporting that the Phillies are talking with the White Sox about a deal involving Jermaine Dye. Perhaps they could get Victorino in the deal and solve their CF problems...

Author:  City of Fools [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:07 pm ]
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Victorino for Dye? That's some pretty bad champainy the were induldging in to go for that trade...

Author:  SHARK [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:17 pm ]
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Not so fast, Sox fans...From what ESPN Radio's Bruce Levine said on "Waddle & Silvy" today, the Phillies & White Sox are discussing a possible Jermaine Dye deal with the new World Champions from Philadelphia. Shane Victorino likely wouldn't be going anywhere if it ever came to fruition.

Author:  Beardown [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:25 pm ]
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I'd love a straight up Dye for Victorino trade.

Victorino's stats. He's a pretty good defensive player.
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425664

Anybody know his contract status? Is he locked up for a while? Even if he isn't I'd do it. This is Dye's last year of his deal. Victorino is 28.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:27 pm ]
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The offeseason is not complete unless KW makes a trade with the Phillies.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:29 pm ]
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Who are the Sox trying to get back from the Phillies?

Author:  Mustang Rob [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:29 pm ]
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I don't think they'll move Victorino (he's inexpensive in his 3rd season), but Kenny might be going after bigger fish, mainly Rollins - who's available for the right price.

JD + Richards + prospect might get you Rollins

Here is the Phils motivation:
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That's about $89MM committed, plus arbitration raises to Howard, Bruntlett, Dobbs, Werth, Victorino, Blanton, Hamels, Madson, Durbin, and Condrey. The raises should push the Phillies past $115MM. The Phillies' '09 payroll is not set at this time. They entered the season at $98.2MM, so a large increase is necessary.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:53 pm ]
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Give me either of those players for Dye and you will see a happy dolphin. If you have Rollins and Ramirez up the middle, you can live with Fields at third. Swisher moves back to right. All you need is a CF, a 5th starter and a little bullpen help and you are good to go.

Author:  Mustang Rob [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:02 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Give me either of those players for Dye and you will see a happy dolphin. If you have Rollins and Ramirez up the middle, you can live with Fields at third. Swisher moves back to right. All you need is a CF, a 5th starter and a little bullpen help and you are good to go.


The ideal scenario plays out like this:
1)Trade JD & Richards + double a prospect for Rollins
2) Trade Javy for Coco Crisp & double a prospect
3) Make a run at Dempster
4) Hope Linebrink comes back healthy

Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:05 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Give me either of those players for Dye and you will see a happy dolphin. If you have Rollins and Ramirez up the middle, you can live with Fields at third. Swisher moves back to right. All you need is a CF, a 5th starter and a little bullpen help and you are good to go.


That, and if Boras gets Teixeira out of Anaheim to allow the Sox dump Konerko there for Figgins... :drunken: :D

Author:  SHARK [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:40 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Give me either of those players for Dye and you will see a happy dolphin. If you have Rollins and Ramirez up the middle, you can live with Fields at third. Swisher moves back to right. All you need is a CF, a 5th starter and a little bullpen help and you are good to go.


That, and if Boras gets Teixeira out of Anaheim to allow the Sox dump Konerko there for Figgins... :drunken: :D

Scott Bora$ seems to live in a dream world if he thinks he'll get 6 years for Manny Ramirez to remain w/the Dodgers, and I've read on FOXSports.com that the Angels may not be waiting much longer with Teixeira and what Bora$ wants for the first baseman to stay in Anaheim.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:55 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Give me either of those players for Dye and you will see a happy dolphin. If you have Rollins and Ramirez up the middle, you can live with Fields at third. Swisher moves back to right. All you need is a CF, a 5th starter and a little bullpen help and you are good to go.


That, and if Boras gets Teixeira out of Anaheim to allow the Sox dump Konerko there for Figgins... :drunken: :D


Figgins has become a mythical figure much like Carl Crawford before him. He is a good, not great player who also just had a below average season. He is only under control for one more year and there is word that he has a similar disposition to Orlando Cabreara. I want him, no doubt, and I would not mind Figgens for Konerko. I just don't think he will live up to most people's expectations.

Author:  RodeoVann [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 pm ]
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Quote:
Who are the Sox trying to get back from the Phillies?


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Author:  fox23 [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:56 pm ]
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We are hearing as well as others that the Sox will definitley trade Dye.

http://chi-ball.com/blog/2008/11/newsda ... move-vets/

Author:  fox23 [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:32 am ]
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Or better worded attempt to trade Dye.

Author:  RodeoVann [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:10 pm ]
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My sox guy says that Houston Street could be headed to the white sox or Mets. I know the mets would use him a closer, but I wonder where he would fit in with the white soxs

Author:  Beardown [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:19 pm ]
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RodeoVann wrote:
My sox guy says that Houston Street could be headed to the white sox or Mets. I know the mets would use him a closer, but I wonder where he would fit in with the white soxs


I just heard on ESPN that Houston Street is going to Colorado in that Holliday trade. Hasn't been announced yet. That's what they said. He's lost it anyway. I don't know if he can get it back.

Author:  BD [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:32 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
My sox guy says that Houston Street could be headed to the white sox or Mets. I know the mets would use him a closer, but I wonder where he would fit in with the white soxs


I just heard on ESPN that Houston Street is going to Colorado in that Holliday trade. Hasn't been announced yet. That's what they said. He's lost it anyway. I don't know if he can get it back.


Rumors already starting though that Street will be moved from Colorado.

I know his injury status is always a bit up in the air, but they are going to lose Fuentes to free agency, but I'm not sure if Colorado has another in-house closer or if this is just another rumor.

Author:  Mustang Rob [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:41 pm ]
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BD wrote:
Beardown wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
My sox guy says that Houston Street could be headed to the white sox or Mets. I know the mets would use him a closer, but I wonder where he would fit in with the white soxs


I just heard on ESPN that Houston Street is going to Colorado in that Holliday trade. Hasn't been announced yet. That's what they said. He's lost it anyway. I don't know if he can get it back.


Rumors already starting though that Street will be moved from Colorado.

I know his injury status is always a bit up in the air, but they are going to lose Fuentes to free agency, but I'm not sure if Colorado has another in-house closer or if this is just another rumor.

They have Manny Corpas who was their closer in '07

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