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ESPN is reporting that the Yankees have acquired Nick Swisher for a minor leaguer. The Yankees just keep getting more stupid I guess.


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ESPN 1000 says 5 players involved in the deal.

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ESPN is reporting that the Yankees have acquired Nick Swisher for a minor leaguer. The Yankees just keep getting more stupid I guess.

That guy has got great energy. Brings a positive vibe to the whole clubhouse. He's a sparkplug!

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Can we still load up the Nick-O-Meter for old times sake?

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That guy has got great energy. Brings a positive vibe to the whole clubhouse. He's a sparkplug!


buttplug...

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I bet "Dirty 30" plays first base with the Yankees in the new Yankee Stadium...Jason Giambi won't be back...


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Rosenthal is reporting the Sox also gave up minor league pitcher Kanekoa Texeira. ESPN says it's a 5 player deal. Melky Cabrera??


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White Sox acquire minor league pitchers Johnny Nunez and Jeff Marquez along with Wilson Betemit for Nick Swisher, another prospect and the $24 million he was owed......

At least, that's what I am hearing.


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If this is true I would say that's a great deal made by Kenny.

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Darkside wrote:
Darren - Tinley Park wrote:
He's a sparkplug!


I'd say he is a grinder!

Nick Swisher....we hardly knew ye

No more pussy pink chin hair though!

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Wilson Betemit...I could've sworn he started his career in Atlanta, then got dealt to the Dodgers & Yankees before coming here in the Swisher deal today. I wonder if Wilson's acquisition means bye, bye Juan Uribe...


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Krazy Ivan wrote:
If this is true I would say that's a great deal made by Kenny.


Explain why....

I know I learned last season that Kenny knows what he's doing (Cabrera, Quentin), but even if these guys don't work out, good riddance to Swisher.


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Wilson Betemit...I could've sworn he started his career in Atlanta, then got dealt to the Dodgers & Yankees before coming here in the Swisher deal today. I wonder if Wilson's acquisition means bye, bye Juan Uribe...


If they did get Betemit, I think this means Uribe is out.

Betemit has been a big league bust. I don't know for certain if he started off in Atlanta, but he was traded from the Dodgers to the Yankees, and despite the hopes for this guy, he hasn't established himself.


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Wilson Betemit...I could've sworn he started his career in Atlanta, then got dealt to the Dodgers & Yankees before coming here in the Swisher deal today. I wonder if Wilson's acquisition means bye, bye Juan Uribe...


If they did get Betemit, I think this means Uribe is out.

Betemit has been a big league bust. I don't know for certain if he started off in Atlanta, but he was traded from the Dodgers to the Yankees, and despite the hopes for this guy, he hasn't established himself.

BD, I'm about 95% sure Betemit was an Atlanta Brave before he got dealt to the Dodgers & Yankees before coming here for Swisher...I think he plays third, shortstop & second base...


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Was there any doubt Uribe was out?

Maybe they view this guy as a fill in until the Cuban kid is ready to go, assuming they are able to land him?

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The New York Yankees announced today that they have acquired switch-hitting first baseman/outfielder Nick Swisher and right-handed pitcher Kanekoa Texeira from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for infielder Wilson Betemit and right-handed pitchers Jeff Marquez and Jhonny Nunez.
Swisher, 27, batted .219 (109-for-497) with 86 runs, 21 doubles, 24 home runs and 69 RBI in 153 games with the White Sox in 2008, leading all American League switch-hitters in home runs and ranking second in RBI. He made 69 starts in center field, 47 starts at first base, 16 starts in left field and 11 starts in right field, combining for a .990 fielding percentage (7E, 675TC), including a .996 mark at first base (2E, 481TC).

The Oakland Athletics' first pick (16th overall) in the 2002 First-Year Player Draft, Swisher has appeared in 611 career games, batting .244 with 117 doubles, 104 home runs and 324 RBI. Since 2005, his 334 walks are tied for third-most in the American League while his 102 homers are the fourth-most among Major League switch-hitters. He has also recorded at least 20 doubles and 20 homers in each of the last four seasons. Swisher was acquired by Chicago on Jan. 3, 2008, in exchange for left-handed pitcher Gio Gonzalez, right-handed pitcher Fautino De Los Santos and outfielder Ryan Sweeney.

"We're excited with the addition of Nick Swisher," said Yankees Manager Joe Girardi. "We feel he has a ton of upside. He's a patient switch-hitter, adds versatility at a number of defensive positions, including first base and the outfield, and will be a positive presence inside the clubhouse."

Texeira, 22, was 6-3 with 21 saves and a 1.33 ERA in 51 combined relief appearances with Single-A Winston-Salem and Double-A Birmingham, ranking second among White Sox Minor Leaguers in saves. He was selected as a Carolina League mid- and postseason All-Star, posting a 3-1 record and a 0.93 ERA with Winston-Salem, while recording 20 saves in 23 opportunities. Over his final 22 appearances with the Single-A club (23.1IP), he did not allow an earned run and held opponents to a .176 batting average (15-for-85).

A native of Maui, Hawai'i, he was originally selected by the White Sox in the 22nd round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft and entered 2008 with the organization's best slider, according to Baseball America. In 113 career Minor League appearances, he has a 12-7 record with 40 saves and a 2.24 ERA, striking out 149 batters in 144.1IP.

Betemit hit .265 (50-for-189) with 13 doubles, six home runs and 25 RBI in 87 games with the Yankees in 2008, making starts at all four infield positions. He was acquired by the Yankees from the Los Angeles Dodgers on July 31, 2007, in exchange for right-handed pitcher Scott Proctor.

Marquez was 8-8 with a 4.47 ERA in 19 combined games (18 starts) with Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, the GCL Yankees and Double-A Trenton in 2008, missing nearly two months (June 19 - Aug. 12) with a right shoulder strain. Selected by the Yankees in Compensation Round A (41st overall) of the 2004 First-Year Player Draft, Marquez led Yankees farmhands in wins (15) and innings pitched (155.1) in 2007 while with Trenton, and owns a career record of 43-40 with a 3.60 ERA.

Nunez, acquired at the 2008 trading deadline from the Washington Nationals in exchange for infielder Alberto Gonzalez, owns a 21-18 record with a 3.26 ERA in 93 career Minor League games (64 starts). He appeared in eight games with Double-A Trenton following the acquisition, going 1-0 with a 1.86 ERA and striking out 26 batters in 19.1IP.


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 Post subject: Re: Swisher a Yankee
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
If this is true I would say that's a great deal made by Kenny.


Explain why....

I know I learned last season that Kenny knows what he's doing (Cabrera, Quentin), but even if these guys don't work out, good riddance to Swisher.


I may be confused. You don't think Williams made a good deal by just getting rid of Swisher?

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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If this is true I would say that's a great deal made by Kenny.


Explain why....

I know I learned last season that Kenny knows what he's doing (Cabrera, Quentin), but even if these guys don't work out, good riddance to Swisher.


I may be confused. You don't think Williams made a good deal by just getting rid of Swisher?


I'm on the same page with you, just got the impression that you liked what they got back.

I'm happy to have traded Swisher away, hopefully these 2 pitchers can add some depth to our system, and compete for jobs in the near future. Swisher was horrible, and I certainly didn't want to count on him. I'm assuming that the Yankees are picking up his entire salary as well for the next few years.


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If you look at it as:
Batemit, Marquez & Nunez for Texiera, Gio Gonzalez, Sweeney & De los Santos it looks like a terrible net trade.

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I'm on the same page with you, just got the impression that you liked what they got back.

I'm happy to have traded Swisher away, hopefully these 2 pitchers can add some depth to our system, and compete for jobs in the near future. Swisher was horrible, and I certainly didn't want to count on him. I'm assuming that the Yankees are picking up his entire salary as well for the next few years.


I probably would have been happy if Kenny got a Best Buy Gift Card in return. The players they got back don't blow me away, but Swisher was close to useless.

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Mustang Rob wrote:
If you look at it as:
Batemit, Marquez & Nunez for Texiera, Gio Gonzalez, Sweeney & De los Santos it looks like a terrible net trade.


Why? If Gio were here he'd have been passed by Richard and Poreda. De Los Santos had Tommy John surgery and Sweeney is a 4th OF'er.


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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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I'm on the same page with you, just got the impression that you liked what they got back.

I'm happy to have traded Swisher away, hopefully these 2 pitchers can add some depth to our system, and compete for jobs in the near future. Swisher was horrible, and I certainly didn't want to count on him. I'm assuming that the Yankees are picking up his entire salary as well for the next few years.


I probably would have been happy if Kenny got a Best Buy Gift Card in return. The players they got back don't blow me away, but Swisher was close to useless.


Agreed.

Marquez was their #7 prospect before the season, and had some injury problems. I think he throws a sinker (good fit for The Cell) so this guy could be a darkhorse candidate for the #5 spot in the rotation......but, even if these guys suck, I was so down on Swisher, this was a positive move.


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If you look at it as:
Batemit, Marquez & Nunez for Texiera, Gio Gonzalez, Sweeney & De los Santos it looks like a terrible net trade.


Why? If Gio were here he'd have been passed by Richard and Poreda. De Los Santos had Tommy John surgery and Sweeney is a 4th OF'er.


If you go by prospect ratings, Gio was #2 in the A's organization & 26 in MLB, while Sweeney was #1 in the Sox org in '07.

If you go by history, Yankee pitching prospects do not pan out very often.

My prediction is that Swisher will rebound to Abreu type numbers in the Yankee line up which rewards patient OBP. type hitters.
Gio will become a solid #3-4 for the A's. Think Danks type numbers from "07.
And Sweeney will put up better numbers Than Batemit.

Marquez had 24 walks and 33 K's in 81 innings in triple A.
That doesn't impress me.

BigFan will be correct to call this move a payroll dump.

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Good. Just getting rid of him is good. Hopefully some of these guys we got back can play.

Swisher had no where to play anyway. Now we need to get a center fielder.

I'm shocked the Yankees wanted him. Holy shit. The Yankee fans will be brutal on him when he goes into one of his slumps. He won't recover once they get sick of him. They will get sick of him.


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But But But who are Frank and beardown going to bitch about now? :lol:

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Meh, you're supposed to buy low and sell high, I think Kenny just did the opposite for Swisher.


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My prediction is that Swisher will rebound to Abreu type numbers in the Yankee line up which rewards patient OBP. type hitters.
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That would be quite a rebound as Abreu's worst years are better than Swisher's best in many offensive categories. The shock of the .219 he hit last year should not take your attention away from his .244 career average.

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Do you think they would take Carlos Zambrano and his act to go along with Swisher?
Please!!!!


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