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| Author: | SHARK [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | A Trade Before Opening Day? |
White Sox fans, could the Southsiders be pondering a possible trade before the regular season opener vs. the Royals April 6th at U.S. Cellular Field? It seems as if Ozzie Guillen is less than thrilled with the three-way battle for center field between DeWayne Wise, Brian Anderson & Jerry Owens with about 10 days left before the regular season opener, and a trade could possibly be in the cards for one of the three underwhelming choices, according to Sox beat writer for the Sun-Times & "SCORE" contributor Joe Cowley. While TV analyst Steve Stone seems to think Wise & Anderson will likely split the duties in a platoon, Cowley reports today that Owens not only could be the odd man out, but could be traded by the end of camp. Cowley didn't mention any specific teams or names in his story, but keep in mind that Owens is out of minor league options, and the Sox will likely lose #7 completely if he's not on the 25-man Opening Day roster. The same is true for the journeyman Wise, considered to be the front runner by a very slim margin to not only start in center, but lead off on Opening Day. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
I think the Sox should waste prospects/cash on a trade before opening day. There is no way they can compete for third in the AL Central with their current CF mess. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
DeWayne Wise sucks. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Right now, I'm not sure you can get a 12 pack of Miller Lite for Owens...Even though he's walking quite a bit, the average is still around .200 overall, and that's not going to get it done. You know what I think of Brian Anderson, and Ozzie is very reluctant to give B.A. much of a shot other than late inning defense... |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Look for Kenny to aquire Carl Everett.....again (I know... JK) |
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| Author: | Mustang Rob [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
I can't see them going into the season with this mess when Melky Cabrera & his $400K salary & 4 more years under club control are out there to be had for a couple of double A arms. |
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| Author: | WestmontMike [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Every time I hear Melky Cabrera's name I think of a game last year (i think) when a guy was heckling the shit of him the whole game. I watched on TV and the guy was so loud it was like he was in my living room...fucking hilarious. If we pick him up, it would be an upgrade in CF but a downgrade in my entertainment. I'm still on the fence with this one. |
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| Author: | Supercup [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Ah yes, Milky Cabrera. I foresee this dolt manning (peyto) center field by the time opening day arrives. Cup- The Sox just arent the Sox without a Cabrera |
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| Author: | spmack [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Cup - The CSFMB will be the CSFMB without you. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
What does Gary Matthews Jr. do for ya???? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Cost you a lot of money for not a lot of production. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Walt Williams Neck wrote: What does Gary Matthews Jr. do for ya???? Provides you (The Angels) with an untradeable contract... The only way they ever get rid of him, is by picking up a HUGE portion of that ridiculous contract. |
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| Author: | Supercup [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Josh Hamilton just declined a contract. Could the possibility of Danks going back home for the crack head be tempting? Cup- Bringing Hamilton to the south side sure as fuck would make the clockers and trappers happy |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Coztansa: Bringing Cup to the grave would make the CSFMB a better place. |
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| Author: | bwfalcon [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Was that Lillibridge I saw on SC's Top 10 Plays yesterday morning out in CF? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
bwfalcon wrote: Was that Lillibridge I saw on SC's Top 10 Plays yesterday morning out in CF? I believe so, and Brent isn't even an outfielder by trade. Brent is this year's Pablo Ozuna. Like Ozuna did when he was here, you might actually see him play shortstop when Alexei Ramirez needs a day off, at second base in relief of Chris Getz, possibly even at third base instead of Josh Fields or Wilson Betemit, even in the outfield from time to time. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Halfpint wrote: but isn't corey patterson a better option than all of them? Pattersons defense is better, he can steal bases, he can suck as much as all these guys That .205 BA and .238 OBP he put up last year would fit right in with Konerko and Thome. |
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| Author: | bwfalcon [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Douchebag wrote: Halfpint wrote: but isn't corey patterson a better option than all of them? Pattersons defense is better, he can steal bases, he can suck as much as all these guys That .205 BA and .238 OBP he put up last year would fit right in with Konerko and Thome. Thome wasn't really far off his career #'s last year. .362 OBP vs .406 career. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
bwfalcon wrote: Douchebag wrote: Halfpint wrote: but isn't corey patterson a better option than all of them? Pattersons defense is better, he can steal bases, he can suck as much as all these guys That .205 BA and .238 OBP he put up last year would fit right in with Konerko and Thome. Thome wasn't really far off his career #'s last year. .362 OBP vs .406 career. True, but did either of them bat their weight last year? I think they both finished around .240. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
I want to say Thome was around .260 and Paulie was in the .240s. In a "bad" year for Thome, he was still at or right near the top of the league compared to other full time DHs. |
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| Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Think Ozzie could make something out of Juan Pierre? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Gloopan Kuratz wrote: Think Ozzie could make something out of Juan Pierre? Juan Pierre's best days are behind him...He's not much better than the three stooges the White Sox have now in center field. |
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| Author: | BD [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Gloopan Kuratz wrote: Think Ozzie could make something out of Juan Pierre? Not unless the Dodgers expect nothing in return and want to pay a large % of his salary. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Last season Cabrera had a .642 ops in 414 AB's, Pierre a .655 ops in 375 AB's, Matthews Jr a .676 ops in 426 AB's and Anderson a .708 ops in 181 AB's. Given the AB's Anderson can out produce those three and provide better defense (except for Matthews) and it would not cost the Sox players or additional money. |
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| Author: | BD [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
Keyser Soze wrote: Last season Cabrera had a .642 ops in 414 AB's, Pierre a .655 ops in 375 AB's, Matthews Jr a .676 ops in 426 AB's and Anderson a .708 ops in 181 AB's. Given the AB's Anderson can out produce those three and provide better defense (except for Matthews) and it would not cost the Sox players or additional money. Anderson SHOULD be their starting CF. Unfortunately, they seem interested in a base stealing, stereo-typical lead-off guy, and they are in denial about their current options. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Trade Before Opening Day? |
If they want speed at the top of the lineup, Alexei Ramirez is the fastest guy on this roster and if I was Ozzie, #10 is MY lead off hitter, plus has a higher on-base percentage in very limited at-bats at the top of the order. Alexei is best suited in my world... |
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