good dolphin wrote:
Watch the Sox get healthy against minor league teams over the next couple of weeks even without Konerko, Thome and Quentin.
Only if the pitchers the Brew Crew are starting aren't rookies making their first start.
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:46 am ] |
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Beat the Brewers... not that the Cubs will take advantage of it. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:26 am ] |
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The way both teams are playing, this series is bound to be full of suck. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Watch the Sox get healthy against minor league teams over the next couple of weeks even without Konerko, Thome and Quentin. |
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| Author: | Country Bumpkin [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
good dolphin wrote: Watch the Sox get healthy against minor league teams over the next couple of weeks even without Konerko, Thome and Quentin. Only if the pitchers the Brew Crew are starting aren't rookies making their first start.
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| Author: | enigma [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
good dolphin wrote: Watch the Sox get healthy against minor league teams over the next couple of weeks even without Konerko, Thome and Quentin. Just like the last home stand set up nicely for the Sox. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
The A's and Indians are MLB teams. The same cannot be said of the caliber of competition during this Sox roadtrip. |
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| Author: | enigma [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
They play the Reds this trip. Dusty Baker simply cannot be anything but a minor league skipper. Roll your eyes at that one. |
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| Author: | enigma [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
The minor league Reds took 2 out of 3 from the major league Indians earlier this year. so yes
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Frank Coztansa wrote: The A's and Indians are MLB teams. The same cannot be said of the caliber of competition during this Sox roadtrip.  Hubris, thy name is Coztanza. You do seem to set store by the AL's supposed superiority. Whatever floats yer boat.
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Supposed, huh? Please, research the interleague W-L for the AL over the past 5-6 years and then get back to me. I need not even mention the last 3 AL teams to win the WS swept thier inferior NL opponents. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
kerchungathunk wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: The A's and Indians are MLB teams. The same cannot be said of the caliber of competition during this Sox roadtrip. Hubris, thy name is Coztanza. You do seem to set store by the AL's supposed superiority. Whatever floats yer boat.*sigh* The boys at Baseball Prospectus wrote a book called "Baseball Between the Numbers". The paperback edition features a preface titled 'Why is the American League Better Than the National League'. You and several others around here need to read this. They use a lot of computations but here's the gist of it: 'the American League is better than the National league because the American League has better players'. 'The American league started getting better players in 1991 (well AFTER the introduction of the DH) when ' several pitchers migrated to the two teams with the most aggressive recent approach to player acquisition and the biggest recent payrolls, THE NEW YORK YANKEES AND THE BOSTON RED SOX. The spill over effect of the Yanks' and Red Sox's aggressiveness was a keeping-up-with-the-jones effect, with other AL teams becoming more aggressive in chasing free-agent talent'. http://books.google.com/books?id=VsmnfV ... t&resnum=3 |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
I'll do your research for you. Courtesy the Afternoon Saloon: The best interleague records since this started in the late 90s: Yankees, A's, Twins, White Sox. Any NL teams up there? Precisely. |
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| Author: | enigma [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
The AL has been the more dominant league the last 4 years, no doubt. But in the first 8 years of interleague play the NL actually had the upper hand 988-959. So yes the AL has been better the last 4 years, but since 1991? There is no proof if you go by on field results. And the WS champion has come from the minor league 2 out of the last 3 years, going 8-2. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/interleague/records.jsp |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Keyser Soze wrote: kerchungathunk wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: The A's and Indians are MLB teams. The same cannot be said of the caliber of competition during this Sox roadtrip. Hubris, thy name is Coztanza. You do seem to set store by the AL's supposed superiority. Whatever floats yer boat.*sigh* The boys at Baseball Prospectus wrote a book called "Baseball Between the Numbers". The paperback edition features a preface titled 'Why is the American League Better Than the National League'. You and several others around here need to read this. They use a lot of computations but here's the gist of it: 'the American League is better than the National league because the American League has better players'. 'The American league started getting better players in 1991 (well AFTER the introduction of the DH) when ' several pitchers migrated to the two teams with the most aggressive recent approach to player acquisition and the biggest recent payrolls, THE NEW YORK YANKEES AND THE BOSTON RED SOX. The spill over effect of the Yanks' and Red Sox's aggressiveness was a keeping-up-with-the-jones effect, with other AL teams becoming more aggressive in chasing free-agent talent'. http://books.google.com/books?id=VsmnfV ... t&resnum=3 Keyser, I'm tweaking Frank because I'm feeling a bit churlish. I really don't, in fact, give a shit either way. The AL is better. Yippie. That and fifty cents will buy you a newspaper. It is laughable that this matters a Goddamned whit to anyone, but if it works for you...
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
75 cents. |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I'll do your research for you. Courtesy the Afternoon Saloon: The best interleague records since this started in the late 90s: Yankees, A's, Twins, White Sox. Any NL teams up there? Precisely. Frank, you prat. I can make selective stats as well. WS winner last year... THE NL DOMINATES 1 to 0 See an AL team up there? GRR! ROAR! WS winners the last three years THE NL DOMINATES 2 TO 1 Big fucking deal. Your stat and my stat mean diddly shit. The AL has better players over the last few years. BFD. You can generate stats until your eyes bleed for all I care. I think the entire premise is asinine and jerking your chain (and Keyser's and any other dolt who sets store by the utterly superfluous fact that the AL is currently, marginally, better than the NL) beause it amuses me for the moment. It is cyclical and meaningless. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Sample size! I give you over a decade, you give me 2 series. |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:47 pm ] |
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I gave you the last three. Suck it. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
How many outs are there in the Cubs game right now? 
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
 Just do your part and beat the Brewers if you can. I truly hope they sweep the series with the Brewers. I'm an ardent Sox fan and fervent believer in the AL's vaunted, masterful superiority over the woebegone, downtrodden NL for that series. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
What's more important...the fact that the league that your team is in is good or that your team is good? I'll hang up and listen for my answer... |
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| Author: | Irish Boy [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Supposed, huh? Please, research the interleague W-L for the AL over the past 5-6 years and then get back to me. I need not even mention the last 3 AL teams to win the WS swept thier inferior NL opponents. 60% of the time, it works every time.
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Duh...the AL vs. the NL debate. My Dad is Better Than Your Dad is more compelling... |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
W_Z wrote: Duh...the AL vs. the NL debate. My Dad is Better Than Your Dad is more compelling... THANK YOU! It is, quite possibly, the dumbest argument this board has to offer. Considering the amount of fertilizer produced, that's high praise indeed. Some idiots seem to think it matters a great deal... |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
The fewer uninformed posts I have to read the better. |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Physician, heal thyself. And now, back to the original premise of this thread. Go Sox. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
W_Z wrote: Duh...the AL vs. the NL debate. My Dad is Better Than Your Dad is more compelling... Your mom! |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Much easier to heal thyself than the masses who refuse to look at facts. |
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| Author: | kerchungathunk [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Go Sox! |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Much easier to heal thyself than the masses who refuse to look at facts. Once more for the hard of reading. It Is A Pointless Arguement. If it gives you an AL inspired stiffy, that's your jollies and have at 'em. Otherwise, it is a superfluous point to make. My humble thanks to the Grand Lords of Baseball from the AL for doing the Cubs a favor. |
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