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Where does he fit in the White Sox bullpen? Does this mean Bobby Jenks' big butt is on the way out?

SHARK wrote:

Where does he fit in the White Sox bullpen? Does this mean Bobby Jenks' big butt is on the way out?

replace dotel 7th inning, rays got theor closer from atlanta yest. so i dont see big boy jenks going any where

:lol: Come on Dave, this is Putz here. If Hendry gives him 3 mil people are bitching about throwing more money at a bad aging injuring prone dude.

D.J. Carrasco could be non-tendered tomorrow. Carrasco, 33 in April, posted a 3.76 ERA, 6.0 K/9, and 2.8 BB/9 in 93.3 innings this year. His peripheral stats weren't much different from Brandon Lyon's.

Go sell crazy in your own section.........we're all stocked up here!

On a related note, MLB.com's Scott Merkin reports that Sox reliever D.J. Carrasco could be non-tendered tomorrow. Carrasco, 33 in April, posted a 3.76 ERA, 6.0 K/9, and 2.8 BB/9 in 93.3 innings this year. His peripheral stats weren't much different from Brandon Lyon's.

I like the move. Putz has as good a chance to have a good season as some of the other goofs signed this offseason (Lyon, Hawkins) and this is a far less commitment.

RFDC wrote:

:lol: Come on Dave, this is Putz here. If Hendry gives him 3 mil people are bitching about throwing more money at a bad aging injuring prone dude.

Completely agree. This is an expensive risk.

Someone asked me tonight why the Yankees and Red Sox didnt get this guy if he is so good.
Simple, he was not healthy last year and thus a risk this year. It is risk that most teams are willing to take , but the Red Sox and Yankees dont have to.

Author:	kujoe_7 [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:	J.J. Putz
1yr 3 million good bullpen grab whats next kenny ??

Author:	SHARK [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: jj putz
Where does he fit in the White Sox bullpen? Does this mean Bobby Jenks' big butt is on the way out?

Author:	kujoe_7 [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: jj putz
SHARK wrote: Where does he fit in the White Sox bullpen? Does this mean Bobby Jenks' big butt is on the way out? replace dotel 7th inning, rays got their closer from atlanta yesterday. so i dont see big boy jenks going any where

Author:	SHARK [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: jj putz
kujoe_7 wrote: SHARK wrote: Where does he fit in the White Sox bullpen? Does this mean Bobby Jenks' big butt is on the way out? replace dotel 7th inning, rays got theor closer from atlanta yest. so i dont see big boy jenks going any where Thanks, Kujoe...I know that Octavio Dotel wasn't offered arbitration, and had struggled himself in the White Sox bullpen. As for Jenks, I know there have been issues with Bobby's weight and his lack of conditioning. Jenks recently took exception to such criticism from the Sox front office and Ozzie alike.

Author:	kujoe_7 [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
On a related note, MLB.com's Scott Merkin reports that Sox reliever D.J. Carrasco could be non-tendered tomorrow. Carrasco, 33 in April, posted a 3.76 ERA, 6.0 K/9, and 2.8 BB/9 in 93.3 innings this year. His peripheral stats weren't much different from Brandon Lyon's.

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Author:	DegenerateDave [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Meanwhile, when reached for comment, Jim Hendry could be heard snoring at his desk. Someone wake up this dumbass and tell him he needs to do his job. Once again, Kenny beats Hendry to the punch.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Come on Dave, this is Putz here. If Hendry gives him 3 mil people are bitching about throwing more money at a bad aging injuring prone dude.

Author:	PANIC! [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
AAARRRGGGHHH! The Cubs missed out on another difference maker, JJ Putz! This is horrible! This season is lost! We can't win without standouts like Putz! What will the Cubs do? Jim Hendry is asleep at the switch while players like Putz go elsewhere! This team is an aging injury-prone reliever away from a championship! PANIC! PANIC!! PANIC!!!

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Go sell crazy in your own section.........we're all stocked up here!

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
kujoe_7 wrote: D.J. Carrasco could be non-tendered tomorrow. Carrasco, 33 in April, posted a 3.76 ERA, 6.0 K/9, and 2.8 BB/9 in 93.3 innings this year. His peripheral stats weren't much different from Brandon Lyon's. This is a bad move unless he is making a lot of $ (which I doubt). He can spot start, and for the most part he was very effective when he had to pitch long relief after a starter got shelled early.

Author:	DegenerateDave [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Keyser Soze wrote: Go sell crazy in your own section.........we're all stocked up here! Thanks Melvin - but it was a White Sox compliment as to Kenny going out and doing the job. Sox fans should be thrilled with their GM. Say what you want about the guy, but he is always active in the offseason.

Author:	Apologist [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
If you get 50 appearances out of Putz i will be amazed.

Author:	walkrman5 [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Putz. That just sounds funny. What a putz.

Author:	PcB [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Congrats on the pickup guys, I wanted him on the Cubs. I hope the deal is incentive laden though, can't be too careful.

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
It's a great aquisition, if he can stay healthy and return to the form of 2008. The Sox have one of the best trainers in the game, so that greatly improves the chances he stays healthy. I am curious to see if Kenny now moves Jenks, or if he intends to keep him in the mix and use Putz in Linebrinks role?

Author:	Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
TONIGHT AT 11 IS NON-TENDERED NIGHT!!!

Author:	BD [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
I agree that trading Jenks would be a mistake, but I wonder how the White Sox, if they are under a budget of around $95 million, are going to be able to fill out the roster, and make any kind of improvement without freeing up some money. They will probably non-tender Carassco from what most reports are saying today saving a small amount of money, but they still have Jenks, Carlos Quentin and John Danks heading to arbitration. If the White Sox payroll is currently at about $81 million for 16 players, and those 3 guys (Jenks, Quentin and Danks) add about $13 million (if Jenks gets $7 million and Quentin/Danks get $3 million apiece), we are looking at a near $95 million payroll with 19 guys signed. Guys like Daniel Hudson or Carlos Torre will fill out the roster so we can probably get the roster up to about 22 or 23 players at about $96-$97 million, but they still have made no upgrades to the offense, which was mediocre last season. I realize they will tell us we'll have a full season of Carlos Quentin, Alex Rios (assuming they believe they have fixed his issues this off-season and in spring training) and Gordan Beckman, and Mark Teahan will be an offensive upgrade over Chris Getz....I don't disagree that the offense should be better, but I was hoping for another home run hitter in that lineup. At this point, with their payroll limitiations, I'm not sure how they even add a Coco Crisp without making a move to reduce payroll first, and a move of Jenks would probably allow Williams to acquire either a hitter he covets on another team, or some younger players that may/may not help next season, but would give him some cash to sign a value player or two from the free agent market. Again, I don't want to trade Jenks, and I'm hoping that Williams will be allowed to at least add one more value offensive player from the market, but if he does have a bottom line at about $95 million, he's going to have to be creative. *Edited to add Williams comments of late: "We don't have any money," the White Sox general manager said during his Wednesday meeting with the media. "We're close to our budget right now, and that really inhibits what we can do in terms of the free agent market. So we have to get creative, and we've done that before.'' (He did give Putz $3 million since making this comment, so it's hard to know exactly what the budget is, and Williams has been known to make these sorts of comments before only to make a splash).

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Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
kujoe_7 wrote: On a related note, MLB.com's Scott Merkin reports that Sox reliever D.J. Carrasco could be non-tendered tomorrow. Carrasco, 33 in April, posted a 3.76 ERA, 6.0 K/9, and 2.8 BB/9 in 93.3 innings this year. His peripheral stats weren't much different from Brandon Lyon's. that's troubling

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
I like the move. Putz has as good a chance to have a good season as some of the other goofs signed this offseason (Lyon, Hawkins) and this is a far less commitment.

Author:	FYI [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Someone asked me tonight why the Yankees and Red Sox didnt get this guy if he is so good. Simple, he was not healthy last year and thus a risk this year. It is risk that most teams are willing to take , but the Red Sox and Yankees dont have to.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
Keyser Soze wrote: I like the move. Putz has as good a chance to have a good season as some of the other goofs signed this offseason (Lyon, Hawkins) and this is a far less commitment. you like it because KW and the Sox did it. If Hendry signed him for the exact same deal you would be laughing at him saying that he was throwing more $$ at a bad player.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
The trend is your friend.

Author:	good dolphin [ Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: J.J. Putz
FYI wrote: Someone asked me tonight why the Yankees and Red Sox didnt get this guy if he is so good. Simple, he was not healthy last year and thus a risk this year. It is risk that most teams are willing to take , but the Red Sox and Yankees dont have to. John Smoltz The truth is the Yanks and Red Sox take tons of risks. They simply have the money to back up those risks with sure things who are lesser talents. Putz was hurt last year, but wasn't he also in a down year in 2008? This is a risk worth taking, but I'm not putting his position in ink anywhere on the roster. I think the talk of moving Jenks now is crazy.