KW doing more of his magic.
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Juan Pierre to White Sox |
The White Sox have acquired outfielder Juan Pierre from the Dodgers for two minor league pitchers. Yuck. |
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| Author: | the ghost of t-dub [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Does he have just one year left on his deal? I know he was making upward of $10 million last year. Hopefully we didn't give up too much for him. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
| KW doing more of his magic.
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
The Dodgers will take on roughly half of Pierre's salary. The outfielder has $18.5MM remaining on his deal ($10MM next year and $8.5MM in 2011), so the Dodgers are taking on about $9MM. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Noodle arm. Keep it. |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Up until now, KW had been putting on a magic show. Now he went for the rabbit and pulled his cock instead. Bad signing. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
I used to run base like Juan Pierre. sorry.... 
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Question for sox fans Would you have rather had Pods or Pierre? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
DegenerateDave wrote: Question for sox fans Would you have rather had Pods or Pierre? Basically the same player, and Pods will be cheaper. Answer seems obvious to me. |
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| Author: | kujoe_7 [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
every day players/line up lf pierre 2b bacon 1b pauly rf carlos q dh ? jones/kotsay 3b Teahen c aj ss alexia cf rios that money for pierre could of been spent better on say jason bay if your paying him 10 mil the next 2 years on our own..... |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Fuck. |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
spanky wrote: DegenerateDave wrote: Question for sox fans Would you have rather had Pods or Pierre? Basically the same player, and Pods will be cheaper. Answer seems obvious to me. Wasn't Pods asking for 7 million? I am sure his expectations will drop, but that was the last number I heard him asking for. What is Pierre making? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
I think it may be hidden in this post somewhere. Keyser Soze wrote: The Dodgers will take on roughly half of Pierre's salary. The outfielder has $18.5MM remaining on his deal ($10MM next year and $8.5MM in 2011), so the Dodgers are taking on about $9MM.
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
spanky wrote: I think it may be hidden in this post somewhere. Keyser Soze wrote: The Dodgers will take on roughly half of Pierre's salary. The outfielder has $18.5MM remaining on his deal ($10MM next year and $8.5MM in 2011), so the Dodgers are taking on about $9MM. Reading is a skill. 10 Million is a lot for next year. I thought the Sox couldn't take on any more salary? They will have to do something with him before 2011 I would think right? |
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| Author: | kujoe_7 [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
from mlbrumors .com White Sox Acquire Juan Pierre By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 15 at 9:52am CST] The White Sox acquired Juan Pierre from the Dodgers for two minor league pitchers, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown (and confirmed by Ken Rosenthal). The Dodgers will take on roughly half of Pierre's salary. The outfielder has $18.5MM remaining on his deal ($10MM next year and $8.5MM in 2011), so the Dodgers are taking on about $9MM. Pierre, 32, hit .308/.365/.392 in 425 plate appearances for the Dodgers last year. He stole 30 bases and played well in the outfield, according to UZR (though we don't want to draw sweeping conclusions from 750 innings of work). The White Sox had shown interest in Scott Podsednik and Brett Gardner, but they appear set with their new addition. If Pierre performs close to last year's levels, the White Sox will have themselves a bargain (depending on the pitchers they give up). |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
This is what's being reported now: Pierre will cost the White Sox $3 million in ‘10 and $5 milllion in ’11, with the Dodgers picking up $10.5 million of the last $18.5 m. The Dodgers will receive 2 players to be named later. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
IF he hits at least .275 I like this better than paying for Podsednik. Pods has no clue how to run the bases, no defensive instincts, and has always had the cycle of one good year/one bad year. As for giving up minor league pitchers, who cares? WS minor league pitching has almost always been overrated IMO. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Sott Pierre Juan Podsednik same guy |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Regular Reader wrote: Pods has no clue how to run the bases, no defensive instincts, And Pierre does? |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
RFDC wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Pods has no clue how to run the bases, no defensive instincts, And Pierre does? Pierre has always seemed to be a better base runner and modestly better fielder than Pods. That is, Cub years excluded.
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Regular Reader wrote: RFDC wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Pods has no clue how to run the bases, no defensive instincts, And Pierre does? Pierre has always seemed to be a better base runner and modestly better fielder than Pods. That is, Cub years excluded. If you say so. I would bet that by June Sox fans will be bitching about Pierre about the same things they bitched about Pods
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
There is absolutely no way he can be picked off that many times. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
ok move, but they still need to add a DH. pierre is better than pods. |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Keyser Soze wrote: This is what's being reported now: Pierre will cost the White Sox $3 million in ‘10 and $5 milllion in ’11, with the Dodgers picking up $10.5 million of the last $18.5 m. The Dodgers will receive 2 players to be named later. That makes the deal much more palatable for the Sox. Turns out he will be cheaper than what Pods was asking for. |
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| Author: | FYI [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Noodle arm. Keep it. Noodle arm? how about NO ARM? I saw him play OF when Manny was taking his 50 game break, saw him throw a ball around 25 feet with winding up. The total mess up with this guy is thinking he is a late inning defensive replacement. A guy with almost no arm should not play defense. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
OK. there is this thing called fangraphs.com. you can find advanced defensive statistics there. check them out. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
The players to be named later are reportedly John Ely and Jon Link. Link was the closer of the future after saving 35 games in '08 at double A. He only managed 13 saves last season at triple A and lost the job. Ely had a very good year at double A posting a 14-2 record with a 2.82 ERA. He's a RH finesse pitcher with a fastball in the 86-88 MPH range and Baseball America has him as the 8th best prospect in the Sox system. Link wasn't rated. Edit: now they are reporting the Dodgers can pick 2 pitchers from a list and these two are on the list. Not reported how many others are on the list. |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
What a fucking joke....A FARM SYSTEM JUST MIGHT HELP THIS "FINANCIALLY STRAPPED" REINSDORFIAN JOKE..... Wasting money on guys like Dotel, Linebrink and now this fool who went about 0-4 months when he played for the Cubs..... This moron Reinsdorf has run this team for close to three decades....DEVELOP SOME OF YOUR OWN PLAYERS!!!! |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
FYI wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Noodle arm. Keep it. Noodle arm? how about NO ARM? I saw him play OF when Manny was taking his 50 game break, saw him throw a ball around 25 feet with winding up. The total mess up with this guy is thinking he is a late inning defensive replacement. A guy with almost no arm should not play defense. Carnival Barker Hawk will start comparing this washed up clown to Lance Johnson. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Juan Pierre to White Sox |
Lance Johnson is a "first time" answer to what question? |
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