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Author:  suckers playground [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Fangraphs on the "Enigma" of DH Situation

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Suggesting that relying on Jones/Kotsay and not pursuing Branyan or Delgado is misguided... an enigma. Agreed, but I don't think they're giving a fair shake to the available options should KW stay put. Definitely a lot of interesting chatter in the comments, especially from one JoeyO.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... /#comments

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:38 pm ]
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Kenny knows the pitching staff is going to keep them in contention and he's (wisely) keeping some payroll and player flexibility so he can add a bat (if needed) during the season. That said, I'd still like to see them make a run at Damon.

Author:  Mr. Belvidere [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:13 pm ]
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I''d be open for Damon but not for a lot of dough. He can play Dh and OF. And you cant teach speed. Pierre and Damon one-two at the top and Bacon in the 5,6 or 7 spot.

Author:  good dolphin [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:36 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Kenny knows the pitching staff is going to keep them in contention and he's (wisely) keeping some payroll and player flexibility so he can add a bat (if needed) during the season. That said, I'd still like to see them make a run at Damon.


DH are going for 1-2 million these days.

Author:  Apologist [ Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:52 pm ]
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Damon is like 36, doesn't play defense well or run at all anymore. Offer him $5mil but there is no way that Bora$ would take that.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:20 am ]
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Damon won't have to play much defense. He was also 12-12 in stolen bases hit 24 HR's 36 doubles scored 107 runs drove in 82 and had a .365 OBP.

good dolphin wrote:

DH are going for 1-2 million these days.

Not the ones that can do what Damon can do.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:28 am ]
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Yeah, but the Yanks offense overall is better than the Sox.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:33 pm ]
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According to Tyler Kepner of the New York Times, Johnny Damon's one-year contract offer from the Braves is worth $2 million now and $2 million deferred.

1yr/$4M for Johnny Damon?!? I have no idea why the Sox aren't in on this.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:40 pm ]
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Because Damon is fragile and noodle-armed and the Braves are dumb?

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:48 pm ]
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Fragile?? Games played in his 14 year career:

145
146
161
145
159
155
154
145
150
148
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141
143
143

Sure he has a noodle arm but he would mostly DH and occaisionally play LF.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:22 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote:
According to Tyler Kepner of the New York Times, Johnny Damon's one-year contract offer from the Braves is worth $2 million now and $2 million deferred.

1yr/$4M for Johnny Damon?!? I have no idea why the Sox aren't in on this.


I will really be ill if they let Damon get away for that kind of money. It's really just a matter of Reinsdorf refusing to negotiate with Boras.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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I think it's a little more complicated than that, GD. The Sox have a roster crunch on both the 25 and 40 man roster. Signing Damon would mean going a man short in the bullpen or on the bench. They would also have to drop someone from the 40-man in order to sign Damon. They were not happy about having to release Cole Armstrong in order to sign Ramon Castro. That said I think they should find a way to make it work because a player of Damon's ability and pricetag does not come along very often.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:59 pm ]
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MLB.com's Mark Bowman hears from a source that even with deferred money, the Braves offer to Damon totals less than $4M.

Good lord.

Author:  Mr. Belvidere [ Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:40 am ]
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Seems he's a .500 hitter against the White Sox. If we cant have him, let the National League have him.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:12 pm ]
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Damon is nearing a decision and the Tigers' offer is the biggest one available to the outfielder, reports ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. Insiders guess the Tigers are offering a one-year deal worth $7M or so. The sides haven't ruled out a two-year deal.

The Braves and Rays are still involved and a source tells Stark that the White Sox have interest. The Braves and Rays are talking one-year deals and neither club has offered as much as the Tigers.

Ah-hah! The Sox have been in on this. I'm not sure about $7M a year but I wouldn't be upset if they gave him a 2 yr deal.

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