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Author:  kujoe_7 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:50 am ]
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From mlb rumers.com

Peavy Has Spoken To White Sox About Acquiring Adrian Gonzalez
By Mike Axisa [February 27 at 9:11pm CST]
Jake Peavy has already spoken to White Sox GM Kenny Williams about the idea of acquiring Adrian Gonzalez, reports Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com. Williams didn't need to hear it from Peavy, because Knobler says he plans to be first in line whenever Gonzalez is made available.

"That's really what we need, a big left-handed hitter," one Sox person said. "They're saying Kenny would give anything to get him, maybe even [Gordon] Beckham."
Although Chicago's lineup already features the lefty bats of Juan Pierre, A.J. Pierzynski, and Mark Teahen, none of them really qualify as a power bat. Gonzalez would certain rectify that, and since incumbent first baseman Paul Konerko may not be back next season, there's a natural fit.

If the White Sox offer a package centered around Beckham, it's difficult to see any other team interested in the Padres' first baseman topping it



Can't see what the soxs have left of the farm besides flowers and jordan danks that the paders would want if you dont inculded Beckham in the deal you would have no shoot, but is he worth trading him when you have him under controll for so long and the sity loves him ?
Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:40 am ]
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If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.
Author:  stoneroses86 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:43 am ]
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Simply by being mentioned in this rumor, Adrian Gonzalez has automatically vaulted onto the list of the top fifty (50) all-time White Sox players.

He will replace long time Brooklyn Dodger Jackie Robinson, who was only on the list because the White Sox had retired his number.
Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:54 am ]
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RFDC wrote:
If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.




Beckham is good, Gonzalez could help you win a championship though.
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:09 am ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
RFDC wrote:
If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.




Beckham is good, Gonzalez could help you win a championship though.



If they played the same position, I would agree with this statement. However, any potential replacements that they already have in house at Second are bad. That would be the reason Kenny went out and got Tehan-because Jayson Nix and Chris Getz didn't cut it on a day-to-day basis.

I think someone would have to hold a gun to Kenny's families heads to move Beckham at this point (and even then he would want to sleep on it). Maybe if he doesn't improve in a couple of years, ok, I see it.
Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:10 am ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
RFDC wrote:
If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.




Beckham is good, Gonzalez could help you win a championship though.


I am not sold on this. Gonzalez is real good and he would look real nice playing 1B and hitting in the Sox lineup, and I would give up a lot for him. But I just don't think you trade Beckham. He has a chance to not just be good, but to be really special. I don't think you want to see him become special in a Pads uniform.
Author:  spanky [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:13 am ]
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The Sun-Times has Gonzales being on the Cubs roster in 2013. :lol:
Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:25 pm ]
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According to reports Beckham wasn't in the offer for Doc Halladay and I highly doubt he would be part of the deal for Adrian Gonzalez.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:34 pm ]
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Gonzalez is a stud. Like ridiculously.
His HR numbers have gone up 4 straight years, he won a gold glove the last two, he's a left handed power hitter and he did that all in a HUGE ballpark.

What is Beckham's ceiling I guess is the question.

I think Beckham could be a multiple time all star. Gonzalez already is though.

Gonzalez was 7th in all of MLB in OPS last year.

He's also only 27 years old. 4 years older than Beckham.
Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:37 pm ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
RFDC wrote:
If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.




Beckham is good, Gonzalez could help you win a championship though.



Beckham sells another 5,000(more?) tickets per home game. And he's young. Give him time and he could well be better than Gonzalez. But, yeah, if you're talking championship this year or in the next couple, Gonzalez.
Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:55 pm ]
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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Chris_in_joliet wrote:
RFDC wrote:
If he gives up Beckham in any trade he is an idiot.




Beckham is good, Gonzalez could help you win a championship though.



Beckham sells another 5,000(more?) tickets per home game. And he's young. Give him time and he could well be better than Gonzalez. But, yeah, if you're talking championship this year or in the next couple, Gonzalez.



5000 tickets???? Where do you get that number from? He wont ever be as good as Adrian Gonzalez..EVER. That being said I think Beckham is a really good player that you could sell really high on.
Author:  kujoe_7 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:33 pm ]
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SUNDAY, 5:58pm: GM Kenny Williams first spoke to Peavy about Gonzalez in January, writes Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times. Peavy gave his stamp of approval, but the "feeling around 35th and Shields" was that it would take a package including Gordon Beckham to land the first baseman, and the White Sox weren't willing to go there.

1:58pm: Mark Gonzales at Chicagobreakingsports.com spoke with Peavy about his campaigning for Gonzalez earlier today. Peavy confirmed that he's spoken with Williams about the big first baseman. "I went into recruiting mode," Peavy said.

Peavy speaks highly of Gonzalez as both a player and a person, and says that while Gonzalez loves San Diego, he wants to win and would go anywhere for a chance to do so
Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:36 pm ]
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Oh, I dunno if that's correct. I recall last season, post All-Star, when Beckham had started hitting (he went 0 for his first couple weeks in June) and he was getting a lot of attention (his at-bat song etc), that the Sox attendance bounced back. Kenny Williams mentioned it around the trade deadline that the improvement in attendance gave him some room to deal. Hey, if Sosa is given credit for keeping Wrigley packed in the late '90's..
Author:  suckers playground [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:41 pm ]
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The Red Sox are currently first in line. They've been pursuing A. Gonz for a long, long time. White Sox might come third in the sweepstakes, considering the Yankees will be batting Nick Johnson at DH for at least a portion of the forthcoming season.

I heard the Beckham scenario compared to Deng for Kobe on the Score earlier today, and while my initial reaction was that it's a flawed analogy due to the differences in player arcs and contracts in the two leagues, I've been re-thinking the idea throughout the day and I do see it the same way. What you get in Gonzalez is a top flight hitter (and none too shabby defense) for the back-end of his prime. Beckham had a stellar debut, but he's still a middle infielder and he'll never be capable of putting up the kind of numbers that Adrian has and will. Removing Beckham from the lineup / infield may be a tough pill, but I don't see how you don't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there.
Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:49 pm ]
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It would defeat the purpose to trade Beckham. If you can't get a deal done without including him then move on to the next guy (Dunn, Lee, Lee...).

IF Gonzalez is traded you can be sure Padres GM Jed Hoyer is going to call his former boss Theo Epstein. You can bet Hoyer would like to acquire some of the talent he had a hand in drafting for the Red Sox.
Author:  kujoe_7 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:31 pm ]
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the M's offered a 7-1 deal for A gonz at the trade deadline last year but the pads gm wanted 1 more player and the M's backed off....Just sayen its gonna take a ton to get him and the you half to pay him around 100 mil for 5-7yrs and i dont think he's worth it
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:10 pm ]
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People have been harping on the lineup all offseason. I'm with Ozzie, I like this team and think they are capable of winning 88-90 games as they are made up right now.

I think they have more than enough power, they just don't have the astronomical power of a 35-40HR guy like Dye or Thome. Kenny won't stand pat, which is good, but I think Beckham might be the only guy on this roster I would not trade unless you were getting back something even better (and certainly younger) than Adrian Gonzalez.
Author:  lipidquadcab [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:51 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
Trade Buerhle - his arm is going to fall off pretty soon.

If that's the deal, the Pads better be throwing in something else...aces don't grow on trees, you know...
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:54 pm ]
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The fuck? I think Buehrle's next DL stint will be his first.
Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:56 pm ]
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lipidquadcab wrote:
Panther pislA wrote:
Trade Buerhle - his arm is going to fall off pretty soon.

If that's the deal, the Pads better be throwing in something else...aces don't grow on trees, you know...



:lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Supercup [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:12 pm ]
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You fucking meatball fans are priceless.........

If all it takes to get Gonzales is Beckham and prospects, you make that deal and never look back.

This stupid facination with prospecting in young players is beyond hilarious, Gonzales is only four years older than Beckham, is a better hitter, AND a GG fielder, what the fuck more do you want when a servicable middle infielder is a hell of alot easier to find than an impact player?


King- Beckham is a younger Ryan Theriot with a bit more power, would you trade that for a MVP contender???


morons
Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:16 pm ]
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Supercup wrote:
Beckham is a younger Ryan Theriot with a bit more power, would you trade that for a MVP contender???


:lol: You are the same person that told me a while back that Colby Rasmus would never make it in the big league.
Author:  Supercup [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:40 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Supercup wrote:
Beckham is a younger Ryan Theriot with a bit more power, would you trade that for a MVP contender???


:lol: You are the same person that told me a while back that Colby Rasmus would never make it in the big league.


And what did Rasmus do last year in a lineup that had the best player in the game and holiday in it besides put up a obp around .300?


King- Still doesnt mean if Beckham stops you from getting Gonzalez, you keep Beckham over an impact player.
Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:50 pm ]
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Adam Dunn is also an impact player and he won't cost them Beckham.


Beckham and Dunn >>> Gonzalez
Author:  WestmontMike [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:49 am ]
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If this guy was right-handed, he'd just be Paul Konerko and wouldn't be getting anywhere near the hype. I'd like to have him. He's an All-Star caliber player but I don't want to overpay for him. The Sox would have to give up a lot in a trade and pay him a ton to keep him.
Author:  mel junior [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:26 am ]
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WestmontMike wrote:
If this guy was right-handed, he'd just be Paul Konerko and wouldn't be getting anywhere near the hype. I'd like to have him. He's an All-Star caliber player but I don't want to overpay for him. The Sox would have to give up a lot in a trade and pay him a ton to keep him.


Are you talking about Dunn or Gonzalez. I disagree with you on both accounts, but want to make sure I understand what you're saying.
Author:  WestmontMike [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:29 am ]
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Gonzalez. I agree with me.
Author:  mel junior [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:37 am ]
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I think you're both wrong then. Gonzalez is younger, a Gold Glove fielder, makes far less money, has more power, higher OPS, hits better with runners in scoring position - and does all of that while playing in one of the most pitcher friendly parks in the majors.

Besides that, they are the same.
Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:40 am ]
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I loved your email to the Danny Mac show, Frank. Your thoughts were well thought out and showed a profound understanding of all things baseball. Well done young man.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:41 am ]
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I stole your Adam Dunn part :lol:
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