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Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Peavy to the Bullpen

See Cub fans that's the difference between the Sox management and the Cub management :lol: :lol:

Author:  Free Ajent [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:58 pm ]
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:scratch:

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:59 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote:
:scratch:

The Sox wouldn't do something so fuckin stupid...ps scratch this :lol:

Author:  Free Ajent [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:11 pm ]
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So you start a whole new thread on it? I'd scratch it if I could find it ol man!

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:15 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote:
So you start a whole new thread on it? I'd scratch it if I could find it ol man!

Its right above ur chin punk

Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:45 pm ]
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A Sox fan concerned about a situation with the Cubs..


Shocking

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:50 pm ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
A Sox fan concerned about a situation with the Cubs..


Shocking

You're a business savant also....the Cub move is like taking the top Salemen in your company and making him a fork lift driver :lol:

Author:  bigfan [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:41 pm ]
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Drastic Times call for Drastic measures.

Really wanted to call in to Bernstein and tell him to put away the VORP numbers for a second, because the first 12 games of the years the Cubs had lead in every one of them and now they have a 20+ ERA in the 8th inning.

I applaude Lou for the "out of the Box" move, especially so early, but I hope this semi temp

Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:47 pm ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Chris_in_joliet wrote:
A Sox fan concerned about a situation with the Cubs..


Shocking

You're a business savant also....the Cub move is like taking the top Salemen in your company and making him a fork lift driver :lol:


Check your facts. Z is the top paid fork lift driver but the least productive. If you can't cut him than you have to find other ways to justify his pay. Keeping him in the bullpen when you have 5 solid starting pitchers(assuming Lilly comes back being Lilly like) makes sense. You need an 8th inning guy and this might just light the fire in your pen, and under Z. I don't see for one second how this hurts.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:28 am ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Chris_in_joliet wrote:
A Sox fan concerned about a situation with the Cubs..


Shocking

You're a business savant also....the Cub move is like taking the top Salemen in your company and making him a fork lift driver :lol:


Check your facts. Z is the top paid fork lift driver but the least productive. If you can't cut him than you have to find other ways to justify his pay. Keeping him in the bullpen when you have 5 solid starting pitchers(assuming Lilly comes back being Lilly like) makes sense. You need an 8th inning guy and this might just light the fire in your pen, and under Z. I don't see for one second how this hurts.


So if you're a bad starter, you become a productive set up man?Convoluted logic :roll:

Author:  man of few opinions [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:38 am ]
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not necessarily, but you never know, he may do a great job down there. he has dominating stuff, and maybe it clicks with him and does well. i just dont think it is that appalling that he goes to the pen and helps settle things down a bit. they need help, and he is the best fit to accomplish the job for now.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:29 pm ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
So if you're a bad starter, you become a productive set up man?Convoluted logic :roll:


Dumbass. You just described Carlos Marmol, and many other top relievers / closers. Do you realize most start as bad or mediocre starters, get moved to the bullpen, and suddenly become stars?


Carlos Marmol = a star= 5 years 26 saves :roll: immessedup17= dipshit

Author:  Apologist [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:33 pm ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
Dumbass. You just described Carlos Marmol, and many other top relievers / closers. Do you realize most start as bad or mediocre starters, get moved to the bullpen, and suddenly become stars?


Image

Not this guy, he was a mediocre SHORTSTOP!!

Author:  crosscheck [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:33 pm ]
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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
A Sox fan concerned about a situation with the Cubs..


Shocking

It's actually been pretty tame so far this season... and by the way things look, I don't think it will get any worse being that both teams are going to probably remain shitty...

Author:  bigfan [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:42 pm ]
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If Peavy has 2 more outings like this one tonight will Steve Stone start quoting the remaining dollars on Peavy's deal each time he says his name?

$15 Mill Base in 2011
$17 Mill Base in 2012
$22 Mill Base in 2013 ( $25,000 Bonus if he gets 3rd place in Cy Young voting, lol)

Hey, that's $54 million!

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:28 am ]
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Peavy got shelled last night.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:58 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Peavy got shelled last night.


That is, when he actually found the time to put the ball somewhere near the stikezone.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:31 pm ]
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Peavy said he made some mechanical changes and is going back to how he threw while in SD. His velocity was up in his last outing hopefully he can build off that. I still think he may be tipping his pitches.

Author:  KDdidit [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:24 pm ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
Your reading comprehension is quite low. Marmol is a 'top reliever / productive set-up man' according to most in baseball. You did not limit this to closers or save numbers only. You said productive set-up man. I gave you a specific example of a bad starter who turned into a productive set-up man, and you call me the dipshit? Funny thing was, I didn't even call him a 'star.' I just said many star relievers in general were previously poor starters.

Mariano Rivera was a starter in the minors, even started 10 games for the Yankees his first year.

Author:  walkrman5 [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:30 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
If Peavy has 2 more outings like this one tonight will Steve Stone start quoting the remaining dollars on Peavy's deal each time he says his name?

$15 Mill Base in 2011
$17 Mill Base in 2012
$22 Mill Base in 2013 ( $25,000 Bonus if he gets 3rd place in Cy Young voting, lol)

Hey, that's $54 million!



On B&B the other day, Stone was asked about Carlos Quinten (sp?) and the fact that in spring training he indicated that he was a changed person and not wouns do tight..or whatever...and B&B pointed out the fact that just 3 weeks into the season he is back to his old ways...yadda yadda... Stone proceeds then to answer the question somehow someway by talking for almost 3 mintes about the Cubs having Carlos Zambrano in the bullpen, etc... NEVER once addressing the question he was asked. What an ASSHOLE. I wish B&B would hold him more accountable to answer their questions.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:34 pm ]
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walkrman5 wrote:
bigfan wrote:
If Peavy has 2 more outings like this one tonight will Steve Stone start quoting the remaining dollars on Peavy's deal each time he says his name?

$15 Mill Base in 2011
$17 Mill Base in 2012
$22 Mill Base in 2013 ( $25,000 Bonus if he gets 3rd place in Cy Young voting, lol)

Hey, that's $54 million!



On B&B the other day, Stone was asked about Carlos Quinten (sp?) and the fact that in spring training he indicated that he was a changed person and not wouns do tight..or whatever...and B&B pointed out the fact that just 3 weeks into the season he is back to his old ways...yadda yadda... Stone proceeds then to answer the question somehow someway by talking for almost 3 mintes about the Cubs having Carlos Zambrano in the bullpen, etc... NEVER once addressing the question he was asked. What an ASSHOLE. I wish B&B would hold him more accountable to answer their questions.

The Carlos Quentin.

Author:  C_Howitt_Fealz [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:37 pm ]
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The David Spada

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