...and now it's over.

I held out hope for you, but that was all for not. I didn't join in the bashing. Remained fairly silent through all the negative talk.Kept my Manny thoughts to myself, and today you took off your collective cleat and smacked me in the ear. You were never good, you were just meh. I hope to see you again one day when you decide to stop sucking at baseball.



Krazy Ivan

Even with Elmhurst Steve's 90 win projection, that is a pretty good season. It would win a division fairly often and it was better than I projected. Still, it was not good enough. The Twins were the better team all along.

Unfortunately, the future is bleak. The Tigers are good and young with big money coming off the books in Magglio.

The Twins core is good, young and locked in for the long term. Also the new stadium and playoff boost will result in them having money to spend. I imagine they will be spending it on a top line FA starter to go along with Liriano and expected rebounds from Baker, Slowey and a good bullpen.

The Sox will have a fantastic staff again next year. Still, it is that staff that has failed them at the beginning and end of this year. The offense may have to replace Konerko and AJ with little room for salary increase. I think they will have to sell off a starter and possibly Quentin.

Saints-Vikings.

Thanks, dolphin. .

That ugly bitch inspired the shit out of me...

KI dream > this dream:
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Well, there is a pretty good chance that Pavano comes back to earth, so we have that going for us.

That's what I was going for. That ugly bitch inspired the shit out of me...

I'm pretty sure Pavano only has a good season in his contract year.

We'll probably be saying the same thing about Konerko next summer..

You know what you get with Konerko .280 28 85. I cannot believe that he will take a pay cut, when he may be able to get an increase (over his current 12 million) for 3-4 years elsewhere. After all he has done for this team it would be painful to see him go. It would be even more painful to see him stay and have people resent him for his bad contract.

You know what you get with Konerko .280 28 85. I cannot believe that he will take a pay cut, when he may be able to get an increase (over his current 12 million) for 3-4 years elsewhere. After all he has done for this team it would be painful to see him go. It would be even more painful to see him stay and have people resent him for his bad contract.

Hopefully 2yr/$24M with an option for a 3rd year will get it done.

That's what I was going for. That ugly bitch inspired the shit out of me...

Konerko has to be considered in any MVP discussion. He's has a fantastic year. That said, offering him a multi-year deal would be foolish. Better to make an offer of arbitration and should he take it, great. If he turns it down and signs elsewhere, they get compensatory picks at least.

I think you're wrong about that. I believe it's just up to the player as to whether or not he cares to accept arbitration and therefore only a one year contract for whatever amount the arbitrator rules on.

Q: When does a player become eligible for salary arbitration?
A: A player with three or more years of service, but less than six years, may file for salary arbitration. In addition, a player can be classified as a "Super Two" and be eligible for arbitration with less than three years of service. A player with at least two but less than three years of Major League service shall be eligible for salary arbitration if he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season and he ranks in the top 17 percent in total service in the class of Players who have at least two but less than three years of Major League service, however accumulated, but with at least 86 days of service accumulated during the immediately preceding season.

I dont think you can offer a 10/5 guy arbitration. That's more for guys who are in the 4th and 5th years in the league.

I just looked it up and you are correct, the player must have less than 6 full years of service time, so that is unfortunately not an option. That leaves the Sox in a tough position. I would have to let him go and give Viciedo the position. As said...better to make the move a year early, than a year too late.

A team can offer arbitration to a free agent regardless of service time.

Pauly has been a type B free agent all season but has recently moved to type A status.