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Author:  illini81887 [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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Ozzie guillen on jenks: "I was a very bad manager because I kept him as my closer when he couldn’t (close)."

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/guillen-warns-of-retaliation-at-jenks.html

Author:  Juiced [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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illini81887 wrote:
Ozzie guillen on jenks: "I was a very bad manager because I kept him as my closer when he couldn’t (close)."

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/guillen-warns-of-retaliation-at-jenks.html


No Ozzie, you're a very bad manager because you can't learn to keep your mouth shut.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:48 pm ]
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illini81887 wrote:
Ozzie guillen on jenks: "I was a very bad manager because I kept him as my closer when he couldn’t (close)."

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/guillen-warns-of-retaliation-at-jenks.html

Yeah that 87% save percentage really blew.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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two 1/4 wits , put em together u get the proverbal 1/2 wit :wink:

Author:  jimmypasta [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:09 pm ]
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AS a Cub fan,I liked Ozzie but enough is enough. It is time for him to go away. The talk of ripping a guys throat out isn't cute or funny anymore. The Sox need to clear out the whole clubhouse NOW. A whole new coaching staff. Try finding a manager that has managing a ballclub as his first priority.

Author:  spanky [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:31 pm ]
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Ozzie spends 7 minutes on one answer - all about Bobby Jenks. But he wants Jenks to focus on his own team and stop worrying about the Sox? :lol:

Author:  Spiral Stairs [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:14 pm ]
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the whole guillen family needs to move back to venezuela. you knew when oney started this whole thing that ozzie privately loved it. he just couldn't hold it in anymore.

Author:  Rod [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:22 pm ]
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Deacon Blues wrote:
the whole guillen family needs to move back to venezuela. you knew when oney started this whole thing that ozzie privately loved it. he just couldn't hold it in anymore.


Oh, I don't think there's any doubt anymore that Oney is Ozzie's proxy. But he better be careful or he may lose his team. It seems pretty clear that a lot of Sox players weren't thrilled with Jenks, but I think they're probably even less thrilled with having a manager who allows access to his half-wit kid who might then broadcast their private business via a Twitter feed - with a wink and a nod from the manager himself.

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:41 pm ]
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Completely agree JORR. I have no idea why Ozzie continues to engage in this kind of stuff. He needs to ignore Jenks and worry about his own team and keeping his sons out of the way. This stuff is going to come back to bite him eventually.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:58 pm ]
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Just beat the damn Twins...

Author:  badrogue17 [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:04 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Completely agree JORR.

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Author:  Country Bumpkin [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Just beat the damn Twins...


+1

Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:47 pm ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Just beat the damn Twins...

-5 1/2 in September.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:51 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
Just beat the damn Twins...

-5 1/2 in September.


Impossible. Keyser has chronicled for all of us the worst off season in the history of baseball, there is no way the Twins win the division

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:51 pm ]
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Jenks has some serious ink on his arms. I never noticed it before as he always seemed to wear sleeves. Is it sox protocol to hide the ink?

Author:  Rod [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:07 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Jenks has some serious ink on his arms. I never noticed it before as he always seemed to wear sleeves. Is it sox protocol to hide the ink?


I was thinking the same thing when I saw that picture. I think that sleeve has to be new. Or did he just always wear long sleeves?

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:48 pm ]
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Tough guy Ozzie had several people openly saying bad things to his face about Oney at the roast and did nothing. Does this guy really think he scares people

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:28 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Tough guy Ozzie had several people openly saying bad things to his face about Oney at the roast and did nothing. Does this guy really think he scares people


I have never considered Ozzie a good amanger based on his X's and O's, but in his ability to get the best out of players by acting like a teammate and really getting guys fired up. Part of that is the trust they have in him and this shit with Jenks might become an issue effecting that, which renders him useless and fireable.

Author:  HOVA [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:31 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Tough guy Ozzie had several people openly saying bad things to his face about Oney at the roast and did nothing. Does this guy really think he scares people


That's what happens at a roast. You're supposed to take it or you shouldn't agree to do it. Ozzie should take his belt off and put Jenks in his place like he is replacing his father.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:39 pm ]
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Nas I dont think the stuff said to Oney at the roast was typical Roast stuff


Anyway, at what point does someone question the physical threats? I know he's being metaphorical but in this P.C. society its hard to understand how he gets away with calling people Venesualan pieces of shit and ripping throats out and shit like that?


What happens when Ozney hits the majors?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:40 pm ]
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So Jenks couldnt get a baby sitter?

That is a tad askew

Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:41 pm ]
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Jenks should pay the White Sox dugout a visit and ask Ozzie for a throat rip demo.
It was OK in 2005 when Ozzie made the "wide guy" move with his hands to call in Jenks. If that's not drawing attention to himself (which Ozzie lives for),I don't know what is. Like I said before,it is time for Ozzie to pack up his circus clowns and head out of town. Take Don Cooper with him. Pretty arrogant because he is still living off the '05 season,when his ass was kissed by the media.

Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:50 pm ]
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Quote:
Since taking over as White Sox pitching coach, Cooper's pitching guidance has helped the White Sox to a 721-638 record with a 4.29 ERA overall. A more important number to look at would be the 704 quality starts put up under his watch since 2003, an average of 88 per season, the highest such Major League total during that time period.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/art ... b&c_id=mlb

Author:  Rod [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:50 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
What happens when Ozney hits the majors?


I don't think anyone has to worry about that unlikely scenario.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:00 am ]
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Since Cooper has taken over the Sox RunsAllowedPerGame has been under 4 only once in 9 years. (2005 of course)

Author:  Rod [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:07 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
Since Cooper has taken over the Sox RunsAllowedPerGame has been under 4 only once in 9 years. (2005 of course)


How many AL teams have been under 4 during that span?

Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:09 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
Since Cooper has taken over the Sox RunsAllowedPerGame has been under 4 only once in 9 years. (2005 of course)


How many AL teams have been under 4 during that span?


LOL...Ok,you got me,not too many. I was just trying to weasle out of my Don Cooper statement. I just don't like him ,he sounds like an arrogant New Yorker on the radio. Sox seem to have a lot of that arrogance.

Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:24 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
Since Cooper has taken over the Sox RunsAllowedPerGame has been under 4 only once in 9 years. (2005 of course)


How many AL teams have been under 4 during that span?


Exactly, and consider the White Sox play in a band-box of a ballpark and often have had sub-par fielding of late.

FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) and xFIP take into account such things as quality of defense behind the pitching as well as park factors.

White Sox were 1st or tied for 1st (with the Twins) in the AL for both in 2010.

And the White Sox pitching staff WAR of 24.9 smoked the rest of the AL in 2010:

http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos ... ason1=2010

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