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that is not "closer money" have u seen what guys make to set up and close? raphel soriano makes like 11 million per

The White Sox and Matt Thornton have agreed to terms on a 2yr/$12M contract extension with an option for 2014. The deal won't affect Thornton's $3M salary for 2011, but will pay him $5.5M annually in 2012 and 2013. The club option for 2014 is worth $6M, with a $1M buyout.

This is fantastic news. Kenny's run of great moves continues.

so thorton will make about 500 k more than kevin gregg each year for this year and next....outstanding deal by kenny. and everyone outside piniella and hendry know gregg is garbage

I love the move. You locked up a guy that could be a dominate closer for a below market closer price.

This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move!

Frank Coztansa wrote:

This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move!

Didn't Joe Borchard get the biggest signing bonus ever at the time? That's a high price to pay for an above average reliever.

thorton's agent did him a dis service , thorton will probaly be the 3rd highest paid closer in his own division

I doubt he finished the game for every 12 blown saves.

This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move!

I love the move. You locked up a guy that could be a dominate closer for a below market closer price.

Wow bigfan. Excellent insight here :roll:

I'll be a meatball, but nowhere near as bad as bigfan.

I am very mildly so.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

I doubt he finished the game for every 12 blown saves.

This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move!

AWESOME MOVE!

2 BS, 3rd Bad Appearance and this was not just one bad pitch and he lost a game, this was 4 hits, 5 runs over .2 innings.

Where is my guy Ranger to tell everyone not to worry? Read enough posts here to say that is no longer the case already.

The challenge is being an entertaining/funny meatball.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:32 pm ]
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The White Sox and Matt Thornton have agreed to terms on a 2yr/$12M contract extension with an option for 2014. The deal won't affect Thornton's $3M salary for 2011, but will pay him $5.5M annually in 2012 and 2013. The club option for 2014 is worth $6M, with a $1M buyout. This is fantastic news. Kenny's run of great moves continues.

Author:	312player [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:41 pm ]
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wish kenny was the gm for the cubs

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:44 pm ]
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This isn't closer money. Scott Downs signed a 3yr/$15M contract, Brian Fuentes signed a 2yr/$10.5M and for some reason Joaqin Benoit signed a 3yr/$16.5M contract and none of them will be closers. Thornton is clearly the better reliever and if he does end up closing that makes this deal even better. Who knows how much a desperate team would have offered if Thornton were to reach free agency after the season. I'm happy we're not going to find out.

Author:	312player [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:00 pm ]
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that is not "closer money" have u seen what guys make to set up and close? raphel soriano makes like 11 million per

Author:	Sleuth [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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Arguably the best left-handed set up man in the majors. Money well spent. End argument. No need for discussion debating the other side.

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Author:	Northside_Dan [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:46 pm ]
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312player wrote: that is not "closer money" have u seen what guys make to set up and close? raphel soriano makes like 11 million per Probably shouldn't use the Yankees as your example of what a player in a particular position should make. Thorton is really good no doubt. Probably a good deal especially if he ends up closing this year which I suspect he might

Author:	312player [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:57 pm ]
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i used soriano because he is great like thorton....kenny cut a good deal. thorton would get paid more money if he hit open market. probally the same deal soriano got

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:07 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: The White Sox and Matt Thornton have agreed to terms on a 2yr/$12M contract extension with an option for 2014. The deal won't affect Thornton's $3M salary for 2011, but will pay him $5.5M annually in 2012 and 2013. The club option for 2014 is worth $6M, with a $1M buyout. This is fantastic news. Kenny's run of great moves continues.

Author:	312player [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:19 pm ]
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so thorton will make about 500 k more than kevin gregg each year for this year and next....outstanding deal by kenny. and everyone outside piniella and hendry know gregg is garbage

Author:	sinicalypse [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:21 pm ]
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yeah, i concur with the general consensus in this thread, this is another excellent move by the white sox. there's no need to talk closer/setupman salaries, but when you add this alongside the shrewd alexei ramirez contract it's lookin good in the southside. still tho, i'd have chris sale close and keep thornton in his role so you can use his talents at any point from the 6th-9th as needed.

Author:	sinicalypse [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:22 pm ]
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312player wrote: so thorton will make about 500 k more than kevin gregg each year for this year and next....outstanding deal by kenny. and everyone outside piniella and hendry know gregg is garbage actually, i think they knew gregg was meh but as bernstein would say, piniella used marmol as his security blanket in 2009, much like i want ozzie to do with thornton. this is not just because i fucked up my closer system in the winner's league not knowing that billy wagner retired... fuck. =D

Author:	HOVA [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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I love the move. You locked up a guy that could be a dominate closer for a below market closer price.

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: I love the move. You locked up a guy that could be a dominate closer for a below market closer price. Typically, in this type of situation the contract includes some number $$ for GAMES FINISHED. So IF Thornton becomes the premier closer, he gets paid per save or per GAMES FINISHED and you didnt pay for a Closer, so if he loses the job they save some money. It is done with almost every guy who might Close. Yes, this was the case with LaToya Hawkins. Who got paid an extra $50K for each one of his 12 blown Saves with the Cubs! because he FINISHED the game! So the guy Blew 12 Saves and got $600K for that!!! Think Thornton took a deal that pays him less than Jenks got? Ia ms ure some very nice bonuses exist.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:42 pm ]
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I doubt he finished the game for every 12 blown saves. This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move!

Author:	Apologist [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:28 pm ]
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It's 2 more years of cost control for one of the premier left handed flamethrowers out there. What's amazing about watching Thornton, he's basically a 1-pitch pitcher. '06: 8.17 '07: 8.79 '08: 10.29 '09: 10.82 '10: 12.02 Those are his STRIKEOUT/9 numbers the last 5 years. That's what you call getting it done.

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Author:	Douchebag [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:44 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move! Didn't Joe Borchard get the biggest signing bonus ever at the time? That's a high price to pay for an above average reliever.

Author:	312player [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:44 pm ]
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thorton's agent did him a dis service , thorton will probaly be the 3rd highest paid closer in his own division

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:35 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move! Didn't Joe Borchard get the biggest signing bonus ever at the time? That's a high price to pay for an above average reliever. $5million, but that was Ron Schueler. Not a Kenny Williams doing.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:24 pm ]
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312player wrote: thorton's agent did him a dis service , thorton will probaly be the 3rd highest paid closer in his own division Soria and Nathan are two of the best in the game, but I think Soria is still in his arbitration years.

Author:	312player [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:27 pm ]
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nathan has not pitched in a LONG time, he was very good 2 years ago, and i was refering to valverde as making equal money

Author:	bigfan [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:52 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: I doubt he finished the game for every 12 blown saves. This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move! AWESOME MOVE! 2 BS, 3rd Bad Appearance and this was not just one bad pitch and he lost a game, this was 4 hits, 5 runs over .2 innings. Where is my guy Ranger to tell everyone not to worry? Read enough posts here to say that is no longer the case already.

Author:	bigfan [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:04 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: I love the move. You locked up a guy that could be a dominate closer for a below market closer price. DOMINATE

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:38 am ]
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Wow bigfan. Excellent insight here

Author:	Bucky Chris [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:52 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Wow bigfan. Excellent insight here See, now you know how the rest of us Cubs fans feel.

Author:	Bucky Chris [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:04 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: I'll be a meatball, but nowhere near as bad as bigfan. The challenge is being an entertaining/funny meatball.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:10 am ]
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I am very mildly so. bigfan is neither.

Author:	RFDC [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:12 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: I am very mildly so.

Author:	Chus [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:25 am ]
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bigfan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: I doubt he finished the game for every 12 blown saves. This is an excellent signing by Kenny. He turned Joe fucking Borchard into Thornton. What an awesome move! AWESOME MOVE! 2 BS, 3rd Bad Appearance and this was not just one bad pitch and he lost a game, this was 4 hits, 5 runs over .2 innings. Where is my guy Ranger to tell everyone not to worry? Read enough posts here to say that is no longer the case already. So this was a bad move by Kenny because Alexei threw a ball away, and Pierre dropped a pop-up? If these routine plays are made, the inning is over, and Johnson never bats. bigfan = Captain Meatball

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:11 am ]
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Bucky Chris wrote: The challenge is being an entertaining/funny meatball. Along with being smart, which bigfan's recent comment was anything but. 5 runs yes bigfan, all unearned.