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NearWessSideHussra

Post subject: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:09 am

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Soria's scuffling big time as closer in KC, but it's probably nothing Don Cooper can't fix.

Humber currently has a 3.06 ERA and 0.975 WHIP.

Humber's on a 1 year, $500 K deal, Soria balloons to 1/5th of KC's payroll next season, and KC has pitching galore in the pipeline (Montgomery, Duffy, Odorizzi and Jeffress (2 of the 4 guys they got for Greinke)).

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:17 am

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Why?

Trade a cheap quality starter for an expensive struggling bullpen pitcher?

No thanks.

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Mr. Belvidere

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:49 am

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No. Starting pitching is golden. Closing is easy. Our closer is an infielder. And he's better than our closer. Who is a pitcher. ??????????????????????

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Country Bumpkin

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:47 am

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IMO Sergio Santos has more than earned the closer position. I'm tired of taking on "project" pitchers for Coop to fix. Humber is doing a great job and Santos gives me more hope than Thornton, or Pitcher "X".

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:51 am

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NearWessSideHussra wrote:

He may be on a 1 year deal but isn't he under Sox control for another 5 years before he goes to free agency?

Trading him now would be as bad of a move as trading Hudson last year. There are too many good young former Sox pitchers around the league already.

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:19 am

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No

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Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:22 am

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How about Humber for Kevin Gregg?

Make it happen Kenny!

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:31 am

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Humber and Viceido for Roberto Alomar and Carl Everett.

And then again next year too!

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Vincent Antonelli

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:52 am

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Humber is doing a hell of a job. Crazy to trade him with DL Jake having problems again.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:07 am

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Humber's presence allows the Sox to not be held up by Boras in FA with Jackson. That's 8 million that gets knocked off the books next year.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:08 am

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Yep. Trade Jackson for some help elsewhere at the deadline.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:19 am

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good dolphin wrote:

Humber's presence allows the Sox to not be held up by Boras in FA with Jackson. That's 8 million that gets knocked off the books next year.

Does this mean you are assuming that Peavy will be healthy and productive for the rest of this season and 2012 as well?

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Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:29 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Humber's presence allows the Sox to not be held up by Boras in FA with Jackson. That's 8 million that gets knocked off the books next year.

Does this mean you are assuming that Peavy will be healthy and productive for the rest of this season and 2012 as well?

They aren't likely to give Jackson a 3 or 4 year deal at $8 million plus. I think they are far more likely to attempt to resign Buerhle to a 2 year deal, and go with the other 4 (Peavy, Danks, Floyd and Humber).

* All of this is 1) barring injury and 2) assuming Buerhle doesn't become poor/Jackson great down the stretch.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:41 pm

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Sale is going to be a starter.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Phil Humber for Joakim Soria?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:34 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Humber's presence allows the Sox to not be held up by Boras in FA with Jackson. That's 8 million that gets knocked off the books next year.

Does this mean you are assuming that Peavy will be healthy and productive for the rest of this season and 2012 as well?

What Keyser said.

I would have said Sale replaces Buehrle next year but I think Buehrle ends up being one of those people who JR demands the team re sign...like Konerko.

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OldSchoolScoreFan

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:01 am

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Humber is here to stay. He is an inexpensive, decent starter. Sale will also be in the rotation next year. A rotation of Danks, Floyd, Humber, Sale, and Peavy is still pretty solid. I also would not be suprised if Floyd or Danks are moved and Buehrle is somehow brought back.

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